FISCON or OEM bluetooth? Costs?
FISCON or OEM bluetooth? Costs?
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fivesixseven8

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6,146 posts

258 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I'm due to collect an R32 from VW this weekend. The car doesn't have the bluetooth module so I've asked them to quote for fitting one.

From doing some looking I've seen the FISCON unit does the same as the OEM kit, but I cannot find anyone who supplies and fits them.

Any suggestions on what kit is the better option? The car has the MFD2/RNS-500 satnav unit. I don't wan't any extra displays or controls and ideally for the kit to use the multi function steering wheel.
Also, any ideas on the costs for installation from VW and from a specialist car stereo place?

VAG1

784 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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The VW one only supports RSAP phones but it's fully integrated with the car, the fiscon connects with most phones but I don't think some of the multifunction steering wheel buttons work.

fivesixseven8

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6,146 posts

258 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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VAG1 said:
The VW one only supports RSAP phones but it's fully integrated with the car, the fiscon connects with most phones but I don't think some of the multifunction steering wheel buttons work.
RSAP? I need it to work with an iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS.

Dr G

16,005 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Speak to Gareth at Hazzydays, he will come to you to fit and is well versed with both genuine and Fiscon versions.

www.vwcruise.com

I have no connection other than being a happy customer.

fivesixseven8

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258 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Dr G said:
Speak to Gareth at Hazzydays, he will come to you to fit and is well versed with both genuine and Fiscon versions.

www.vwcruise.com

I have no connection other than being a happy customer.
I had seen those guys and they appear very professional. Unfortunately they are more than VW have quoted me.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I fitted the OEM Audi one, opting against the Fiscon one, for one reason only; the Fiscon you need an external microphone, (not much, sort of clipped on the a-pillar very discreetly), but the Audi kit used a pre-made clip in the interior light for the audi-specific microphone, and so totally hidden; hence I went for that. Cost was very close so as to be negligable.

Not sure if it will be the same for VW, but thought I'd mention it for you just as a question to ask thumbup

fivesixseven8

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258 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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TonyHetherington said:
I fitted the OEM Audi one, opting against the Fiscon one, for one reason only; the Fiscon you need an external microphone, (not much, sort of clipped on the a-pillar very discreetly), but the Audi kit used a pre-made clip in the interior light for the audi-specific microphone, and so totally hidden; hence I went for that. Cost was very close so as to be negligable.

Not sure if it will be the same for VW, but thought I'd mention it for you just as a question to ask thumbup
Thanks Tony. I'd noticed that seemed to be the main difference! Some people say that Fiscon gives text message access in the clocks display too, not that we are bothered about that.

£411 fitted from VW seems to be the best price I can find so far.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Oooo, and also i seem to remember that through the Fiscon unit you can do A2D (I THINK that's what it's called) - basically it's where you connect your iphone through bluetooth to the unit and can play music from the iphone, via bluetooth, through the car's speakers. Very useful for some (quite a good feature I think!) though I'm going a different way for that so didn't need it. But nevertheless, might help thumbup

Older Audi units can't do iphones, but the newer ones (mine was a 2010 module, I bought it last August) certainly do. The Fiscon, of course, can.

fivesixseven8

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Monday 22nd March 2010
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TonyHetherington said:
Oooo, and also i seem to remember that through the Fiscon unit you can do A2D (I THINK that's what it's called) - basically it's where you connect your iphone through bluetooth to the unit and can play music from the iphone, via bluetooth, through the car's speakers. Very useful for some (quite a good feature I think!) though I'm going a different way for that so didn't need it. But nevertheless, might help thumbup

Older Audi units can't do iphones, but the newer ones (mine was a 2010 module, I bought it last August) certainly do. The Fiscon, of course, can.
I've told them that if it doesn't work with my iPhone then I won't be paying!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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fivesixseven8

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6,146 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Got VW down to £350 fitted for the OEM kit so have gone for that smile

Dr G

16,005 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Fair play, that's a very good price.

fivesixseven8

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Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Dr G said:
Fair play, that's a very good price.
I thought so too. I've got it in writing that it will "fully work" with my iPhone too so will be checking this before paying!

pitch3110

162 posts

213 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Wifey has an ED30 and is crazing for BT.

Will the VW OEM one work without MFSW?

If so how do you pick the calls up

ta

fivesixseven8

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Thursday 25th March 2010
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pitch3110 said:
Wifey has an ED30 and is crazing for BT.

Will the VW OEM one work without MFSW?

If so how do you pick the calls up

ta
I think it can all be controlled through the trip computer mfd? I'll try mine in the weekend and let you know.

Tomatogti

383 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I've got a Mark V Golf GTI FY06 with MFD2 Sat Nav and MFSW and just had FISCON fitted for £400 all in. It's got the same functions you get with VW/Audi/Skoda kits plus it can play MP3 files and also has a menu which shows you some engine stats (water/fuel temp, revs, actual speed - ie real speed not what speedo says). All this comes up in the highline computer in dash (doesn't come up in Sat Nav but apparently nothing will with this older style Sat Nav).

It does work with iPhones and you can have the microphone hidden in the same place the OEM kits put them (ie behind a little mesh grill by roof lights).

You get full phone list as well as settings to adjust ringtime volume, speaker volume, mic volume etc. Very pleased with it.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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fivesixseven8 said:
Got VW down to £350 fitted for the OEM kit so have gone for that smile
That sounds really good thumbup

There's loads of options and things with these sort of installs - all int he software.

On my Audi install it needed to be coded to ensure that it would be able to see all the missed calls/dialled numbers/phone book etc. When you test it make sure you can see all that smile (it does take 30 seconds or so from paring to see all that though - it syncs every time)

trix-a-belle

1,074 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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damn, too late.
hope you're happy with the vw bluetooth it may be the Bury rebranded as VW system rather than the rsap/integrated system they have installed which iirc does work with the iphone whereas the rsap system doesn't.

for Fiscon personally would have you referred you to Richter Sport at MK but depends where you are in the country.

S

fivesixseven8

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258 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Forgot about this thread!

They actually fitted a mObridge kit and made a right balls-up of it. My iPhone connected but I had no phonebook or call history showing. I checked with the UK distributor and it should have worked so most likely a config/setup error. I refused to pay for it as they had put it in writing that it would work with the iPhone.

It's all a bit academic anyway, I rejected the car and got a refund after it broke down twice in a week! That week also included them having the car from Sunday-Thursday!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Oh right blimey - that's all one hell of a turn about!

The phone book/history thing in the Audi set up was purely one tiny little digit that needed chanign in the coding (from simple to comfort, or something like that)