Audi 2.0T FSI Auto Drive Train?

[AudiSport]

I know the die-hard option is always manual - but I'm getting board of changing gear at 33 and the wife's new X5 as proven to me Auto is the way forward!

I'm looking to buy a B7 shape Audi A4 2.0T FSI in auto and wondered if anyone could give me any feedback on the engine. Is there enough power to make it a smooth ride/gear change?

[Dr G]

2.0 TFSI engine is very good indeed, Multitronic ahs its problems although later (B7) cars are massively improved - there's an encyclopaedic thread on here on the subject.

[AudiSport]

Dr G said:

2.0 TFSI engine is very good indeed, Multitronic ahs its problems although later (B7) cars are massively improved - there's an encyclopaedic thread on here on the subject.

Thank you for the info. The car is a Quattro and have checked it is the Tiptronic box so should be free from the majority of the multitronic issues!

[Tame Technician]

2.0TFSI is nice engine, lacks a bit of character, by that I mean there is no real rush of turbo boost, just smooth progresive torque through the rev range.

Tiptronic box is made by ZF will be virtually the same as those in BMW, jaguar etc. No proplems with them unless you intend to keep it forever and go well over 120,000 miles with it. If so a gearbox oil change (although not strictly required) is advisable around 60,000 miles.

[Dapster]

I have a 55 plate 2.0 TFSI Auto (multi-tragic box but fwd). The car itself is great, but the box spoils the whole show - it's slow witted and saps the car of a lot of shove (I drove the quattro manual loan car when mine was being serviced and it seemed to have 20 bhp more (and no, it wasn't the special edition with 20bhp more....)). The engine is good for a 4 cyl - very torquey but sounds like a hairdryer and with the auto, drinks heavily in town but is good on a long run (I suppose 1 advantage of the auto is that it's pulling about 30mph/1000 rpm in 7th). I do a lot of city driving and the box is a real weak link - you have to drive around it to avoid lurching into traffic or heart stopping will it/won't it moments pulling out of side roads. Also forward/backwards manoevers have to be carefully managed to avoid it clunking into gear - it's just not good enough considering how well engineered everything else is.

Otherwise the rest of the car is very nice. Well built and so far, very reliable. Mine's the S Line which I think looks great, and well specced - leather, Sat Nav plus, parking sensors f + r, Bose, heated seats, cruise 18" alloys etc etc. It was a 1 owner Audi approved car.

Would I buy another one? Well no actually. I have 2 kids now and it's too small. Would I recommend one to anyone else - well see above but I must say my experience with the dealer network has been awful - you get good ones and bad ones and the 4 or 5 I have tried in and around London have been shameful.

[mbrain]

I have a '55' reg 2.0T Quattro tiptronic. The autobox does feel solid, but with the extra weight of the AWD system, possibly lacks a bit of urge.

Couple of questions for the Tame Tech:

Would having a performance increase have any major detrimental effect on the engine/box (nothing daft, maybe 40bhp to make it more 'driveable')?

Mine is now at 69000 miles and I'm tempted to have the autobox oil changed, although it's apparently sealed for life/warranty. Is this a major job as I've heard the oil is shared by the AWD system? I'll be using a specialist for it.

Many thanks.

[Dr G]

We Revo lots of the 2.0T motors and the only reliability issue it seems to cause is popping diverter valves (which are made out of rice paper anyway). Plenty of inexpensive, uprated diverters are available and fitting is straight forward.

Get a map on it (~260 BHP and ~280 lb ft) straight away, it transforms the car.

[mbrain]

Does the performance upgrade have much of a detrimental effect on fuel consumption?

You do read of it increasing??

Many thanks.

[Dr G]

Under 'normal' driving you'll get a small improvement in fuel economy although I have had customers who say the improvement is quite pronounced.

I haven't done enough miles to compare really, I tend only to take them on road tests or deliver customer cars.

Some of the larger outfits do offer trials/money back guarantees.

[mbrain]

Many thanks Dr G.

I've been quoted £450 for a 50bhp increase at APS in Brackley. Is this about right?

[Dr G]

If that includes VAT it's a good price, Ed is a sound chap so I don't doubt it will be good software too

[mbrain]

I've dealt with Ed previously, and I agree, he's a nice fella.

Thanks for assistance.

[Tame Technician]

mbrain said:

I have a '55' reg 2.0T Quattro tiptronic. The autobox does feel solid, but with the extra weight of the AWD system, possibly lacks a bit of urge.

Couple of questions for the Tame Tech:

Would having a performance increase have any major detrimental effect on the engine/box (nothing daft, maybe 40bhp to make it more 'driveable')?

Mine is now at 69000 miles and I'm tempted to have the autobox oil changed, although it's apparently sealed for life/warranty. Is this a major job as I've heard the oil is shared by the AWD system? I'll be using a specialist for it.

Many thanks.

My personal opinion on tuning the 2.0TFSI is yes do it, but consider an extra oil and filter change half way between when the dash says you need one. And always always make sure the car is warm before you thrash it and let it idle or drive very steadily before switch off. With a remap you are asking the turbo to work a bit harder, so you need to just be a bit nicer to it.

[mbrain]

Hi TT,

Thanks. That's great advice.

I always treat my cars with respect!!

Marcus