Griffith buying help needed
Griffith buying help needed
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FactoryPilot

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1,352 posts

245 months

Sunday 22nd May 2011
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Hi guys,

After owning many different types of TVR's, most recently Sag's and Tuscans etc... I've finally decided to take the plunge and get a Griff.

A few simple and probably stupid questions...

No fixed budget, which is the best one? I read that 4.3BV sound like heaven, 500's can have problems with the engines.... etc etc.

I do like the idea of an earlyish non-cat car, but they seem thin on the ground these days. Any pointers for a Griff virgin would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

FP smile

carsy

3,019 posts

194 months

Sunday 22nd May 2011
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Pre cats or 500`s, it really is a matter of personal preference which probably only you can decide. Go and see as many as possible and see which you like the drive of. The most important decision is to whether you are buying the car as a project or whether you just want to buy and drive. if you just want to drive it the underneath is the most important thing to look at. Many cars are now getting on a bit and some can be in a state chassis, outrigger wise., yet look great body wise. Having said that there will be some good ones out there, so check underneath. Personally i went for a 4.3 pre cat.

3024E

483 posts

214 months

Sunday 22nd May 2011
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As you know with TVR's condition is king....

Ultimately 4.3BV or even 4.5BV if you can find one!!!

The last 100 LE 's are way too expensive, and are not worth the money......(in my opinion)


Pre-cats all the way for me...........

Also remember the MK1 version of anything is always worth more in the long run





FactoryPilot

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1,352 posts

245 months

Sunday 22nd May 2011
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Thanks guys, you've almost confirmed what I thought.

I'm not specifically looking for a project as such, but if I find an otherwise ideal car that just needs a bit of tlc here and there, it wouldn't put me off. As long as it is straight and honest....

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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3024E said:
As you know with TVR's condition is king....

Ultimately 4.3BV or even 4.5BV if you can find one!!!

The last 100 LE 's are way too expensive, and are not worth the money......(in my opinion)

Pre-cats all the way for me...........

Also remember the MK1 version of anything is always worth more in the long run
If you say so wink Doesn't seem to be that way at the moment though.

To the OP. As has been suggested get out there and drive as many as you can. They all differ in one way or another and all feel slightly different on the road. As the old saying goes - condition is king.

Performance wise, the 4.3 BV and especially the 4.5 BV are pretty much on a par with a good 5 litre. The later cars IMHO feel a bit more 'developed' as standard, but there aren't many out there that haven't had some sort of improvements over the years so that argument isn't valid really.

Drive some, get a feel for what you like and wait for the right car to come along smile





DonkeyApple

69,785 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Mr MoJo said:
If you say so wink Doesn't seem to be that way at the moment though.

To the OP. As has been suggested get out there and drive as many as you can. They all differ in one way or another and all feel slightly different on the road. As the old saying goes - condition is king.

Performance wise, the 4.3 BV and especially the 4.5 BV are pretty much on a par with a good 5 litre. The later cars IMHO feel a bit more 'developed' as standard, but there aren't many out there that haven't had some sort of improvements over the years so that argument isn't valid really.

Drive some, get a feel for what you like and wait for the right car to come along smile
You are right that this is the case at the moment but it is absolutely guaranteed that at some point in the future the earliest ones will become the more valuable. As will unfettled ones.

The future owners of these cars are a wierd group and have little in common with the current owners.

They will meet out in the Cotswolds with beards and speech impediments and gather around a table to impart their immense wisdom of early parts numbers and have penis size competitions based on who knows the most paint codes.

There is no logic to these people, they will know infinitely more than any of us about the cars and yet much of it will be wrong but be turned into fact by them.

And as a direct result of this new breed of owner, anyone with any form of mod will be shunned as a vile heathen and owners of newer cars will be shunned because of their brash, gaucheness.

Such is the way of the freaky classic car mentalist. biggrin


LordGrover

34,162 posts

241 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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So... a bit like Vixen owners then?

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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FactoryPilot said:
<snip> 500's can have problems with the engines.... etc etc.<snip>
Just out of interest what problems are you referring to here?

FactoryPilot

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1,352 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I'd read somewhere that some 500's had engine issues? Is this a load of rubbish?

Unfortunately, I cannot recall exactly what the problem was, other than it was specific to the 500 engine.... maybe it was internet tripe?

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

286 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I don't think that the 500 is more problematic than the others. I suppose the capacity has been pushed more which could mean there is less metal around the cylinders.

LordGrover

34,162 posts

241 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I thought it's a longer stroke?

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

286 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Yes - you're right. the bore is the same in all the variants

http://www.rv8r.co.uk/rv8spec.html


DonkeyApple

69,785 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I thought it was a stroked engine as the Walls were already getting towards thin on the 4.3

As such it is supposed to rev less freely than a 4.3 giving it a different driving character, especially if the 4.3 has a high cam and lightened flywheel to make the most of its more revvy nature.

The 500 delivers more torque lower down which is what can make them more twitchy but I believe the power is over a shorter range but there is just more of it.