Nitron settings etc.. 3 questions for thoes in the know :)
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Hi Guy’s.. I bought some used Nitrons a few months back… Just had them serviced and they are now back looking jolly good if I do say so myself 
… I’ve got 4 new springs from Faulkner’s to fit (9” all round as Nitron fit now) and I’m using 400 front and 325 rears…. but have a couple (well 3) questions….
1/ As you see in the pic… the front shock has its platform fully down (I had to squish the spring a tad with tie wraps to get it on).. but obviously when mounted, I only have the option to jack ‘up’ the platform.. . Is it always the case when setting ride height that it needs to go up from just kissing the spring between the two locators?? (to standard settings.. don’t want it low)…
Also.. the gold top’s are different.. one is flatter than the other.. I’ve put them back as they came off.. but the deeper one is on the front shock.. it this correct?.. If it was the flatter one on the front.. I’d have some ‘down’ adjustment?
2/ Ride height.. Peter tells me 145 front and 165 rear to the chassis plates.. but I guess what I’m trying to do it get the bottom arms level.. is this correct?
3/ What’s the best way to fit them with regards to orientation?.. the standard way, or up-side-down?....
Your help again would be much appreciated.. Cheers…
… I’ve got 4 new springs from Faulkner’s to fit (9” all round as Nitron fit now) and I’m using 400 front and 325 rears…. but have a couple (well 3) questions….
1/ As you see in the pic… the front shock has its platform fully down (I had to squish the spring a tad with tie wraps to get it on).. but obviously when mounted, I only have the option to jack ‘up’ the platform.. . Is it always the case when setting ride height that it needs to go up from just kissing the spring between the two locators?? (to standard settings.. don’t want it low)…
Also.. the gold top’s are different.. one is flatter than the other.. I’ve put them back as they came off.. but the deeper one is on the front shock.. it this correct?.. If it was the flatter one on the front.. I’d have some ‘down’ adjustment?
2/ Ride height.. Peter tells me 145 front and 165 rear to the chassis plates.. but I guess what I’m trying to do it get the bottom arms level.. is this correct?
3/ What’s the best way to fit them with regards to orientation?.. the standard way, or up-side-down?....
Your help again would be much appreciated.. Cheers…
John,
Adjusters to the top to keep them out the crap. The front is then easy to adjust and the rear yu have to lie in front on the rear wheel and reach up but not difficult. Not sure if it matters TBH.
Height - I thought it was 155 front and 165 rear but as good to do by eye. About 2 clear fingers between tyre and the top of the arch at the back, can't remember what the front is like from memory and way too cold to go outside and look. Looks like I can see where they were set to previously - can I? If so start there. If the car is on axle stands you can adjust them easy by jacking it up to take the pressure off the spring, otheriwise mind your knuckles as the spanner is rubbish IMO.
FFG
Adjusters to the top to keep them out the crap. The front is then easy to adjust and the rear yu have to lie in front on the rear wheel and reach up but not difficult. Not sure if it matters TBH.
Height - I thought it was 155 front and 165 rear but as good to do by eye. About 2 clear fingers between tyre and the top of the arch at the back, can't remember what the front is like from memory and way too cold to go outside and look. Looks like I can see where they were set to previously - can I? If so start there. If the car is on axle stands you can adjust them easy by jacking it up to take the pressure off the spring, otheriwise mind your knuckles as the spanner is rubbish IMO.
FFG
When I spoke with Nitron they said it did not make any difference which way they were fitted ans as FFG says its easier to get at them with the adjusters up top. When trackVroad set mine up they did it off the wheel arch at its mid point. Ride height Front 620mm, rear 650mm. For what its worth £100 gets the Geo done, including ride height, and was the best £100 I have spent on the car todate
HTH
HTH
Cheers Guy's.. will get Track V Road to do the final settings and geo.. just want to get it somewhere close first and try it... But are the correct bit's on the rite shocks?.. don't want to get it done to find I need to adjust the front down... but can't...
I'm sure you must always jack up from this point.. but something Spend said about springs coming off seats indicates he had to go down from the initial nip on the spring?...
I'm sure you must always jack up from this point.. but something Spend said about springs coming off seats indicates he had to go down from the initial nip on the spring?...
John.
1). I don't know.
2). Set up as suggested, wishbones should be level so set up as suggested, then you can put the car on a ramp or 4 axle stands and check if wishbones level.
3). I mounted my Monos with the adjuster at the bottom for ease of adjustment.
My Monos have the springs at full "out" adjustment with 215/45/17" tyres to get the lowest adjustment that is correct. I realise the tyres are a bit taller then standard but I can't reduce the spring adjustment any more, (just as well!).
1). I don't know.
2). Set up as suggested, wishbones should be level so set up as suggested, then you can put the car on a ramp or 4 axle stands and check if wishbones level.
3). I mounted my Monos with the adjuster at the bottom for ease of adjustment.
My Monos have the springs at full "out" adjustment with 215/45/17" tyres to get the lowest adjustment that is correct. I realise the tyres are a bit taller then standard but I can't reduce the spring adjustment any more, (just as well!).
Thanks All.. will have a play at weekend....
Cheers Ian... as you say, I'll call Nitron today... If it's clear of the mount I guess it don't matter which way they go if you can get it adjusted right.. did yours come back with the springs fitted?... which way did you go to get your level.. any idea...
Thanks again....
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Just had a quick surf and have found pics that suggest my tops are the wrong way around.... so I need to switch them... Flatter one on the front... taller one on the rears
Cheers Ian... as you say, I'll call Nitron today... If it's clear of the mount I guess it don't matter which way they go if you can get it adjusted right.. did yours come back with the springs fitted?... which way did you go to get your level.. any idea...
Thanks again....
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Just had a quick surf and have found pics that suggest my tops are the wrong way around.... so I need to switch them... Flatter one on the front... taller one on the rears
Edited by TVR Beaver on Wednesday 7th December 07:42
Springs came back pre fitted on ours.
You need to adjust to soemwhere close (I think ours are about 3" from the bottom up the thread) and adjust from there. You'll need to have a short drive as they need to settle before adjusting.
Forgot to have a look at the front wheel clearance this morning.
FFG
You need to adjust to soemwhere close (I think ours are about 3" from the bottom up the thread) and adjust from there. You'll need to have a short drive as they need to settle before adjusting.
Forgot to have a look at the front wheel clearance this morning.
FFG
TVR Beaver said:
If it's clear of the mount I guess it don't matter which way they go if you can get it adjusted right.. did yours come back with the springs fitted?... which way did you go to get your level.. any idea...
Yep springs were already fitted but they are the wrong ones and I need to change them - far to short and closed right up when TvR did the geo so cant help you there. Good luck!TVR Beaver said:
No problems.. Think I'm sorted now.. swap the tops over and get stuck in 
Will mount them the 'normal' way up although Nitron say you can put them either way...
will also screw them up a tad (when your talking 3".. i wonder if you have 9" springs or 8"??
Will mount them the 'normal' way up although Nitron say you can put them either way...
will also screw them up a tad (when your talking 3".. i wonder if you have 9" springs or 8"??
Who knows. Whatever Eibach springs they put on, didn't measure them.
FFG
Thats interesting.. Just been fitting springs etc (after swaping the tops over).. and noticed the 'clicks' on the shocks are not the same??
The fronts for example.. one has 27 full clicks top to bottom (with no over-run past the last click).. where as the other has 25 full clicks top to bottom (with over-run past the last click both ends)....
The rears are 26 on one and 25 on the other.. both with over-run both ends?..
Does this matter???
Or do I just start from the top and count down???
.. not sure how accurate they should be?
The fronts for example.. one has 27 full clicks top to bottom (with no over-run past the last click).. where as the other has 25 full clicks top to bottom (with over-run past the last click both ends)....
The rears are 26 on one and 25 on the other.. both with over-run both ends?..
Does this matter???
Or do I just start from the top and count down???
.. not sure how accurate they should be?OK... got to say on the rears.. 25 / 27.... the 25 one does over run both ends but does not get to the next click (if you know what I mean)... where as the 27 one just manages the last click both ends before stoping.... so will count 1 less on the 27 unit when counting down... guess they dont have to be that accurate anyway 
.. lets face it.. most of the time there is only 1 person in the car, so without weighting, it makes a mock anyways.. .
.. lets face it.. most of the time there is only 1 person in the car, so without weighting, it makes a mock anyways.. .Gassing Station | Griffith | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff