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It's anyones guess how many Griff 500s have survived out of circa ?? 1,900 ?? odd made , several people have asked me this recently .
Many must have met their maker just weeks after leaving the Showroom , due to catching out the unwary , sometimes with sadly fatal results .
Anyone any idea of the no of Survivors ?
Many must have met their maker just weeks after leaving the Showroom , due to catching out the unwary , sometimes with sadly fatal results .
Anyone any idea of the no of Survivors ?
Can`t help with specific 500`s, but 2007 MOT figures show 1122 Griffs in total passed, with 314 failing. I do not know if the 314 is extra, or they are in the 1122 if they passed re-test?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/images/mot%20failure%20...
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/images/mot%20failure%20...
5.0ltr said:
Some more clues here for UK numbers.
http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_griffith#!yea...
Interesting, so in 2010 in the UK:http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_griffith#!yea...
746 taxed
351 Sorn
As many will probably take their cars off the road when salt is about I suspect many of the Sorned cars have also been taxed. So allowing for overseas numbers and the odd write offs to be rebuilt probably less than half of the original 1900 now survive.
Loubaruch said:
Interesting, so in 2010 in the UK:
746 taxed
351 Sorn
As many will probably take their cars off the road when salt is about I suspect many of the Sorned cars have also been taxed. So allowing for overseas numbers and the odd write offs to be rebuilt probably less than half of the original 1900 now survive.
If you look at the trend though, as the sorned number increases the taxec number decreases by exactly the same number...just add the two together and you should get the right number of cars in circulation....746 taxed
351 Sorn
As many will probably take their cars off the road when salt is about I suspect many of the Sorned cars have also been taxed. So allowing for overseas numbers and the odd write offs to be rebuilt probably less than half of the original 1900 now survive.
The problem with those figures however is the number of cars taxed that are just registered as a'TVR' as the model name is missing on the V5.
That said I'd guess that out of the estimated 2200 - 2500 Griffiths of all types built that around 1200 would still be around.
Pretty rare car when you compare it to the likes of Porsche, Ferrari et al
That said I'd guess that out of the estimated 2200 - 2500 Griffiths of all types built that around 1200 would still be around.
Pretty rare car when you compare it to the likes of Porsche, Ferrari et al
virgil said:
If you look at the trend though, as the sorned number increases the taxec number decreases by exactly the same number...just add the two together and you should get the right number of cars in circulation....
What stats are you refering to?The figures illustrated only indicate the number of cars Taxed or Sorned for 2010 for cars of the specified years of registration.
In my case a 1996 500, I both taxed and Sorned it in 2010 so adding the figures tells you nothing!
Loubaruch said:
What stats are you refering to?
The figures illustrated only indicate the number of cars Taxed or Sorned for 2010 for cars of the specified years of registration.
In my case a 1996 500, I both taxed and Sorned it in 2010 so adding the figures tells you nothing!
Yep but they show the number sorned and the number taxed per qtr, so you would have taxed it in, say, Q1 adding to the 'taxed' number in Q1 (and not appearing in Sorned in Q1) it would still be taxed in Q2 so no numbers change and then sorned it i, say, Q3 deleting your car from the count of Taxed in Q3 and adding it to the number sorned in Q3.The figures illustrated only indicate the number of cars Taxed or Sorned for 2010 for cars of the specified years of registration.
In my case a 1996 500, I both taxed and Sorned it in 2010 so adding the figures tells you nothing!
The trend makes sense and suggests the Griff is a 'spring/summer only' car.
There's a numebr of cars registerd part and a number taxed and sorned.
Take the Scaglietti for instance...loads registered in 2005, less in 2006, less still in 2007 and down to (if I remember rightly) 9 in 2011...But the toltal taxed per year/Qtr keeps increasing...so the taxed/sorned is by year and qtr of who is currently taxed or sorned as they took the stats, not when the car was registered. If it was by when registered nothing (or little)would be listed after the early 'noughties'
virgil said:
Yep - ranges around 1165 in Q4 2008 to 1070 in Q3 leat year. but with Q2 showing 1110 and the numbers fluctuate, so not THAT acturate
There's just a few hundred Ferrari 612 Scaglietti around, so many less than the glorious Griff...
A bit O/T but a friend of mine got one of the first Scally's in 2005 and we swapped cars for a 10 minute blast (had my old Griff at the time). I remember finishing at Aust/M4 services and a bus load of school kids crowded around the Ferrari as I climbed out and got into my Griff - from a immensely powerful but very quiet benign GT to the glorious noise and sense tingling experience of a proper sports car......I know which I preferred..There's just a few hundred Ferrari 612 Scaglietti around, so many less than the glorious Griff...
BTW he's still got his 612 and must have lost £1k+ pm in depreciation (could buy a Griff every year for that....) and that trend will continue for a few years yet as is the case with previous V12 GT Fezza's...
Loubaruch said:
Virgil,
You are quite correct, I did not notice the quartile graph, Senior moment!
It doesn't happen often (especially according to the wife) so I'll mentally cherrish this one ;-)You are quite correct, I did not notice the quartile graph, Senior moment!
To be fair, all my rambligs were from deduction rather than a clearly defined site. Useful none the less.
Lets just hope we see the numbers stay up there in the +1000 mark for a while longer...looking at the humble landrover 109 from '95 onward it looks rather grim!
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