Scrap block/heads/inlet /plenumn wanted for beer money :-)
Scrap block/heads/inlet /plenumn wanted for beer money :-)
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virgil

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1,557 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Anyone in Essex area got a TVR or Rover V8 4.0 or 4.6 'scrap' Block, heads, inlet plenum etc kicking around they don't want? Need something to play with save taking my engine out...

Cheers,

Virgil..

lestershaw

1,591 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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how quickly do you need them?
by the end of jan i should have changed my chim 500 plenum, afm, trumpets trumpet base, inlet manifold,fuel rail,fuel regulator etc to the same but upgraded. if it works well and i achieve what i am after then the other kit might be available, but its not scrap!
i do have a spare afm now if needed
lester in stansted

virgil

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248 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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lestershaw said:
how quickly do you need them?
by the end of jan i should have changed my chim 500 plenum, afm, trumpets trumpet base, inlet manifold,fuel rail,fuel regulator etc to the same but upgraded. if it works well and i achieve what i am after then the other kit might be available, but its not scrap!
i do have a spare afm now if needed
lester in stansted
End of Jan would be fine, but mainly after block and heads as i'm looking to fab a new intake/throttles...just want the old inlet stuff for reference/benchmarking against)

If nothings availbale I can use mine, but wouldn't mind being able to cut up a scrap inlet and head too :-D

lestershaw

1,591 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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ok, when and if i will let you know as soon as i can :-)
Les

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

203 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Could I borrow them after?

Alex

virgil

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248 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Alexdaredevilz said:
Could I borrow them after?

Alex
Lestershaw's Induction bits 'as is', or the sawn-up autopsy aftermath?

lestershaw

1,591 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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after i have tried my "upgrades" if they have not achieved what i want then i will go back to the previous setup which i know to be good.
if that happens then all the upgrades will be up for sale, ported heads, larger plenum with sandwich base and thermal insulator, larger bosch afm, complete loom/harness :-)and large smooth bore elbow
:-)

virgil

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248 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Care to tell us what the upgrade is?

Or is it a secret for now?


Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

203 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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virgil said:
Lestershaw's Induction bits 'as is', or the sawn-up autopsy aftermath?
Block and heads if he finds a set

lestershaw

1,591 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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" upgrades" nothing special as I have no idea what I am talking about except what I have learnt in the year I have been a tvr owner.
My chim 500 rolling road bhp is approx 290 with no mods. When I bought the chim it had the wrong chip in it, I managed to buy a mark adams tornado chip and larger throttle body plenum and a few other bits at a reasonable price. So my only upgrades are induction based, although I am going to change some electrical stuff too, distributor if needed a spark amplifier he coil and plugs and magnet or leads. Smooth bore elbow etc.
If I make 300 bhp and increase the torque I will be really happy . I am hoping there won't be any driveability Issues which is why I am also addressing any sparking issues.as I say I don't know what I am talking about but it's a minimal no risk exercise? Especially as the son in law has a rolling road as part of his business
Any advice that's not too technical I am happy for it to be offered :-)

biper

2,097 posts

241 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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lestershaw said:
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My chim 500 rolling road bhp is approx 290 with no mods.:-)
Can't be standard making those numbers it MUST have been modifiedcoffee

macdeb

8,733 posts

279 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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biper said:
Can't be standard making those numbers it MUST have been modifiedcoffee
yeswhistle

Dave Westy

75 posts

231 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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I have a 500 block available in Hampshire.
It would need top hat liners, cam bearings etc etc before it could be used

PM me or give me a call if you're interested.

lestershaw

1,591 posts

182 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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macdeb said:
yeswhistle
if it has been modified i dont know about it, and i definitely havent done it myself! when i bought it, it was making 267 approx bhp and i took it to hilton and moss where snibs found some airleaks around the plenum and managed to get me up to 287 bhp. the rolling road is the son in laws so i am pretty sure its accurate.
question: if it has been modified, other than obvious induction mods, where else should i be looking?
the last rolling road i went on was open day at hilton and moss and the bhp was 288 since then i have put on a smooth bore elbow and have a non silenced exhaust, i dont know if they will make any difference good or bad, but it sounds great :-)
Lester

virgil

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Friday 6th January 2012
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lestershaw said:
" upgrades" nothing special as I have no idea what I am talking about except what I have learnt in the year I have been a tvr owner.
My chim 500 rolling road bhp is approx 290 with no mods. When I bought the chim it had the wrong chip in it, I managed to buy a mark adams tornado chip and larger throttle body plenum and a few other bits at a reasonable price. So my only upgrades are induction based, although I am going to change some electrical stuff too, distributor if needed a spark amplifier he coil and plugs and magnet or leads. Smooth bore elbow etc.
If I make 300 bhp and increase the torque I will be really happy . I am hoping there won't be any driveability Issues which is why I am also addressing any sparking issues.as I say I don't know what I am talking about but it's a minimal no risk exercise? Especially as the son in law has a rolling road as part of his business
Any advice that's not too technical I am happy for it to be offered :-)
If it's making 290 now before you've added the induction stuff it most probably is modified already...styandard are 260-270 for an average to good one...

you might find the new stuff (unless the 290 IS already WITH the bigger inlet, chip etc) adds nothing...or you might have a new cam in there already...

290 is not a bad number...

virgil

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248 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Dave Westy said:
I have a 500 block available in Hampshire.
It would need top hat liners, cam bearings etc etc before it could be used

PM me or give me a call if you're interested.
Dave, PM'd you...

lestershaw

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182 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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virgil said:
If it's making 290 now before you've added the induction stuff it most probably is modified already...styandard are 260-270 for an average to good one...

you might find the new stuff (unless the 290 IS already WITH the bigger inlet, chip etc) adds nothing...or you might have a new cam in there already...

290 is not a bad number...
Virgil, it has the usual 500 afm and same size plenum, i have the newer bigger ones ready to go on,
what you say about not achieving more may be right, in which case i may go back to the old setup. still pretty interesting to me to find out. how can i find out what cam is in there without spanners?
Thanks Lester
my heart says well alone, but the magic 300 keeps calling me :-)

virgil

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Friday 6th January 2012
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lestershaw said:
Virgil, it has the usual 500 afm and same size plenum, i have the newer bigger ones ready to go on,
what you say about not achieving more may be right, in which case i may go back to the old setup. still pretty interesting to me to find out. how can i find out what cam is in there without spanners?
Thanks Lester
my heart says well alone, but the magic 300 keeps calling me :-)
Hmmm...reading a lot on here (and I've got to say, it's only reading) and if you have your new bits still in the box, it sounds like you must have had 'some' work already done.

I'm 260 standard (apart from no pre-cats I believe)...people on here seem to do a fair bit to get close to 300 then lots (Cams, head work, etc) needed to get over 300...

Not sure how you'd tell if there were head/cam/inlet changes already...I guess it will be fairly obvious if the head and inlet have already been ported when you do attack it with spanners...

As for the cam...I guess you could pop off a rocker cover and check the valve lift with a dti and see if it's got a lot of lift...might be able to work out the timing and duration as well...but never done this so purely thinking out loud!

lestershaw

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182 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Virgil, not so sure about that,
here is a link to a rolling road day at hilton and moss http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
i am hoping to close to MPoxons figures and it looks like we would have taken a very similar route, except that i still have my precats in ( i think)
if you check his profile and see his engine shots they look very nice
Lester

virgil

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248 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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lestershaw said:
Virgil, not so sure about that,
here is a link to a rolling road day at hilton and moss http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
i am hoping to close to MPoxons figures and it looks like we would have taken a very similar route, except that i still have my precats in ( i think)
if you check his profile and see his engine shots they look very nice
Lester
Later on in the Mpoxon's RR figure thread, he himself quesitions it...the 280ish he thinks his mods shoud give does seem to be more realistic, but maybe you're both very lucky - they do vary a bit ;-)

Whatever the figures are, enjoy and keep us posted with the results of the swaps..that's the real important bit :-)

Cheers,

V.