4 Stud Spiders
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Anyone interested in 4 stud Spiders
Its all ready to go its that simple, we just need the 15 real serious members, Front wheel 16”x 7½” = £144 Rear wheel 17”x8” = £174 Between the 15 buyers we can decide if we want a wider rear 8½” which will be an extra £5 per rear wheel, Delivery i would estimate no more than £41 unless you live way up in the north, And for those that would want Anthracite Grey, Satin Black & Gold colour £48
Wheels in Silver inc delivery £677
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Anthracite Grey wheels 8½” rear width inc delivery £735
Add your name to the list and wheel make it happen
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Its all ready to go its that simple, we just need the 15 real serious members, Front wheel 16”x 7½” = £144 Rear wheel 17”x8” = £174 Between the 15 buyers we can decide if we want a wider rear 8½” which will be an extra £5 per rear wheel, Delivery i would estimate no more than £41 unless you live way up in the north, And for those that would want Anthracite Grey, Satin Black & Gold colour £48
Wheels in Silver inc delivery £677
Or
Anthracite Grey wheels 8½” rear width inc delivery £735
Add your name to the list and wheel make it happen
1: v8ndy
2: Ropps
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Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Thursday 1st March 13:28
SSPPGG said:
would these have correct offsets, or need spigots and spacers like the 5 stud conversion ones?
v8ndy said:
K4TRV said:
What ET please before I add my name??
The wheel ET will be what ever you want, So you can have the standard tvr ET or even experiment with a few more mm for a wider track;) spend said:
The factory versions didn't need spigots or spacers (they were done properly) so which/whose conversions are you referring to?
the spyder conversions using tuscan wheels fitted to 5 stud griff hubs need in spacers and spigot rings...so just confirming if these will be machined to fit the 4 stud hub without those.VV tempted.......i like the look of spiders, but dont want to convert to 5 stud and 18, so 16 fronts and 17 rears look perfect
SSPPGG said:
would these have correct offsets, or need spigots and spacers like the 5 stud conversion ones?
The offsets are as factory spec ,you can have any offset you want. Yo can go for a 8.5 J rear rim so you can fit monster 255 tyres.I'm still thinking about it due to finances .
These are a 4 stud bolt on solution ! no 5 stud conversion needed.
Your getting slightly confused, the spigot adapts the 4x108 to fit Citroen and other cars but does not have anything to do with these ,my pro Race Race have aluminum spigots,no big deal
Your talking about the full 5 stud conversion.
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Thursday 1st March 15:18
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Thursday 1st March 15:36
SILICONEKID340HP said:
The offsets are as factory spec ,you can have any offset you want. Yo can go for a 8.5 J rear rim so you can fit monster 255 tyres.
Im still thinking about it due to finances .
These are a 4 stud bolt on solution ! no 5 stud conversion needed.
Your getting slightly confused, the spigot adapts the 4x108 to fit Citreon and other cars but does not have anything to do with these ,my pro Race Race two aluminum plasic spigots,no big deal
Your talking about the full 5 stud conversion.
i'm not confused at all, The 5 stud conversion using tuscan spider wheels on the griff needs spacer rings and spigots to make that combination workIm still thinking about it due to finances .
These are a 4 stud bolt on solution ! no 5 stud conversion needed.
Your getting slightly confused, the spigot adapts the 4x108 to fit Citreon and other cars but does not have anything to do with these ,my pro Race Race two aluminum plasic spigots,no big deal
Your talking about the full 5 stud conversion.
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Thursday 1st March 15:18
my question was aimed at answering my query "were these proposed wheels machined like the tuscan ones (which need additional spigots and spacers, at a cost of some 60), or would they be machined on the inside like a griff/chim wheel, therefore needing no spigots etc, and therefore no additional cost" ....
having now read the whole thread referred to, seems the answer is that will be machined up like the stock griff/chim wheel, with offsets to suit, which is really good news
Edited by SSPPGG on Thursday 1st March 15:33
SSPPGG said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
The offsets are as factory spec ,you can have any offset you want. Yo can go for a 8.5 J rear rim so you can fit monster 255 tyres.
I'm still thinking about it due to finances .
These are a 4 stud bolt on solution ! no 5 stud conversion needed.
Your getting slightly confused, the spigot adapts the 4x108 to fit Citroen and other cars but does not have anything to do with these ,my pro Race Race aluminum spigots,no big deal
Your talking about the full 5 stud conversion.
i'm not confused at all, The 5 stud conversion using tuscan spider wheels on the griff needs spacer rings and spigots to make that combination workI'm still thinking about it due to finances .
These are a 4 stud bolt on solution ! no 5 stud conversion needed.
Your getting slightly confused, the spigot adapts the 4x108 to fit Citroen and other cars but does not have anything to do with these ,my pro Race Race aluminum spigots,no big deal
Your talking about the full 5 stud conversion.
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Thursday 1st March 15:18
my question was aimed at answering my query "were these proposed wheels machined like the tuscan ones (which need additional spigots and spacers, at a cost of some 60), or would they be machined on the inside like a griff/chim wheel, therefore needing no spigots etc, and therefore no additional cost" ....
having now read the whole thread referred to, seems the answer is that will be machined up like the stock griff/chim wheel, with offsets to suit, which is really good news
I was not aware you had to go through all that hassle to fit the 5 stud conversion
You just pay the money and bolt them on ,they are purpose made to fit straight on the car ..no modifications needed .
Contact V8ndy..he is the brains behind all this ..
SSPPGG said:
the spyder conversions using tuscan wheels fitted to 5 stud griff hubs need in spacers and spigot rings...so just confirming if these will be machined to fit the 4 stud hub without those.
The factory spider package used Tuscan wheels, and it certainly didn't need spacers or spigot rings. Amongst only a couple of others I fitted the factory kit myself (ie with my own hands..) The only spacing the offical kit required, was for the steering rack if your particular chassis / geo had any fouling on lock.spend said:
SSPPGG said:
the spyder conversions using tuscan wheels fitted to 5 stud griff hubs need in spacers and spigot rings...so just confirming if these will be machined to fit the 4 stud hub without those.
The factory spider package used Tuscan wheels, and it certainly didn't need spacers or spigot rings. Amongst only a couple of others I fitted the factory kit myself (ie with my own hands..) The only spacing the offical kit required, was for the steering rack if your particular chassis / geo had any fouling on lock.
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Thursday 1st March 15:57
spend said:
SSPPGG said:
the spyder conversions using tuscan wheels fitted to 5 stud griff hubs need in spacers and spigot rings...so just confirming if these will be machined to fit the 4 stud hub without those.
The factory spider package used Tuscan wheels, and it certainly didn't need spacers or spigot rings. Amongst only a couple of others I fitted the factory kit myself (ie with my own hands..) The only spacing the offical kit required, was for the steering rack if your particular chassis / geo had any fouling on lock.from their site.....
"Front Wheel Spacers
Front wheel spacers machined from billet alloy to locate on the hub centre with integral spigot ring for wheel location. Gives correct offset adjustment to suit ET33 wheel - supplied in pairs.
£60
Rear Wheel Spigot - In alloy, Sold in pairs: £8 "
much of this is just for interest, but AFAIK, using a std 5 stud tuscan wheel on a griff needs these items as the central hole in the spider is larger than the griff, but as the proposed wheels are machined to suit the griff seems they're not needed
spend said:
SSPPGG said:
the spyder conversions using tuscan wheels fitted to 5 stud griff hubs need in spacers and spigot rings...so just confirming if these will be machined to fit the 4 stud hub without those.
The factory spider package used Tuscan wheels, and it certainly didn't need spacers or spigot rings. Amongst only a couple of others I fitted the factory kit myself (ie with my own hands..) The only spacing the offical kit required, was for the steering rack if your particular chassis / geo had any fouling on lock.Sportmotive seem to do something unlike the factory then 
Are you going to do it the factory or Sportmotive way...
If the wheels in question that you are having made are produced with the correct offset (adjusted for rim/tyre width) and centre bore there should be no need for any other paraphanelia should there?
Are you going to do it the factory or Sportmotive way...
If the wheels in question that you are having made are produced with the correct offset (adjusted for rim/tyre width) and centre bore there should be no need for any other paraphanelia should there?
DAZ(Silicone Kid) you know when you jump forums,you're gonna start the same old questions that strated with this subject....its all a toil my friend.
Fellow Tivers, if you go on the GOD of all forums The Chimaera,you will find all the questions and answers on this.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Fellow Tivers, if you go on the GOD of all forums The Chimaera,you will find all the questions and answers on this.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
CHIMV8 said:
DAZ(Silicone Kid) you know when you jump forums,you're gonna start the same old questions that strated with this subject....its all a toil my friend.
Fellow Tivers, if you go on the GOD of all forums The Chimaera,you will find all the questions and answers on this.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Im not doing this for any self gain,I know alot of the griff owners don`t even go on to the Chimaera forum.Fellow Tivers, if you go on the GOD of all forums The Chimaera,you will find all the questions and answers on this.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
There has been alot of people interested in Spiders so this is could be the answer .
Anyway they are just bolt on and drive ..but don`t forget to fit the tyres first
SSPPGG said:
spend said:
SSPPGG said:
the spyder conversions using tuscan wheels fitted to 5 stud griff hubs need in spacers and spigot rings...so just confirming if these will be machined to fit the 4 stud hub without those.
The factory spider package used Tuscan wheels, and it certainly didn't need spacers or spigot rings. Amongst only a couple of others I fitted the factory kit myself (ie with my own hands..) The only spacing the offical kit required, was for the steering rack if your particular chassis / geo had any fouling on lock.Not one to question your memory in your old age,Dave
,but i have an original factory five stud kit and a spigot ring is fitted to the hub which is definately necesary for RL7's but i dont have any spiders to try. Did the Spiders supplied with the kits come with special et 25 fronts then? If they were the normal 33et spiders then you would also need an 8mm spacer to get back to et25 as the stud plate is the same thickness as a 4 stud one. With the et at 25 you should never need any rack spacers for sure.Put simply the original unconverted original 5 stud hubs are no different to the 4 stud in any other respct apart from 5 studs instead of 4. Just wordering if your spigots had already been slipped over the hub so you never saw them as seperate perhaps?
Edited by The AJP Griff on Thursday 1st March 18:50
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