Griff LS3
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761 posts

228 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Well summer is not far off and I'm please to say neither is my LS conversion just the final air intake details to finish.
Many thanks to Ian and Ant at Sportmotive for a cracking job......... I can't wait



TJC46

2,196 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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eff eff said:
Well summer is not far off and I'm please to say neither is my LS conversion just the final air intake details to finish.
Many thanks to Ian and Ant at Sportmotive for a cracking job......... I can't wait


smokin NOW THAT DOES LOOK GOOD! yes

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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eff eff said:
Well summer is not far off and I'm please to say neither is my LS conversion just the final air intake details to finish.
Many thanks to Ian and Ant at Sportmotive for a cracking job......... I can't wait


Absolutely fantastic setup, will your car be at the Growl? If so can't wait to see it. All the best, Pete

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Original Poster:

761 posts

228 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Thanks guys I'm really pleased Sportmotive have done a fantastic job and yes I will have it at the Growl assuming I can keep it pointing in the right direction. I think i'm going to have to get used to rear wheel steering!!! biggrin

MPoxon

5,329 posts

197 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Very nice indeed. Sportmotive do a cracking job on these conversions, it looks almost OEM.

How long does it take?

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Original Poster:

761 posts

228 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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I actually think its tidier than OEM, I don't think the conversion would take that long, Ian could answer that.
It's not just an engine change, Sportmotive have reengineered the engine compartment, different cooling lay-out with more coolant volume (no more air locks) and air intake track. The good news is no chassis mods and the engine mounts are the same, there are a few bespoke components that have been designed to make the conversion work. The run kit also does away with most of the electrical spaghetti in the footwell so more good news.

carsy

3,019 posts

189 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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That really does look fantastic. Quite a few going this route now and why not. Just wish i had a few more pennies.

neal1980

2,584 posts

263 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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that looks fantastic smile

About time someone made some TVR covers now how many LS conversions are going to pop up!

7 TVR

2,589 posts

192 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Welcome to the club! Your conversion looks different to the last sportmotive ls i saw [argoose]?? Or is that just new cooling?
Hope to meet at the Growl, it would be good to get some rolling road figures to see what kind of numbers the ls3 are making?
Are you running your original wheels and tyres sizes? Thanks

GTRene

21,089 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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ooo aaaa nice biggrin

it also has the same sort exhaust pipes under the hood in front of the engine...
I thought the could also go down directly like most V8 cars have so to say.

7 TVR

2,589 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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7 TVR]Welcome to the club! Your conversion looks different to the last sportmotive ls i saw [argoose said:
?? Or is that just new cooling?
Hope to meet at the Growl, it would be good to get some rolling road figures to see what kind of numbers the ls3 are making?
Are you running your original wheels and tyres sizes? Thanks
tumbleweed

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Original Poster:

761 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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GTRene said:
ooo aaaa nice biggrin

it also has the same sort exhaust pipes under the hood in front of the engine...
I thought the could also go down directly like most V8 cars have so to say.
We elected to run the headers forward like the RV8 as it's a bit tight down around the chassis for running the secondaries

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761 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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7 TVR said:
7 TVR]Welcome to the club! Your conversion looks different to the last sportmotive ls i saw [argoose said:
?? Or is that just new cooling?
Hope to meet at the Growl, it would be good to get some rolling road figures to see what kind of numbers the ls3 are making?
Are you running your original wheels and tyres sizes? Thanks
tumbleweed
The air intake and the cooling are a bit different from Angus' set up, we've gone for a deeper ali rad and different expansion and header tank lay-out, the fans are pushing now not pulling. I am planning to go to the Growl work permitting and if its properly run in I may put it on the rollers although the numbers are probably academic as I'm sure it will be ***kin quick and that's enough for me. smile I've got 18's all round but I may try 16's on the front.

7 TVR

2,589 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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eff eff said:
The air intake and the cooling are a bit different from Angus' set up, we've gone for a deeper ali rad and different expansion and header tank lay-out, the fans are pushing now not pulling. I am planning to go to the Growl work permitting and if its properly run in I may put it on the rollers although the numbers are probably academic as I'm sure it will be ***kin quick and that's enough for me. smile I've got 18's all round but I may try 16's on the front.
Thanks for the update, look forward to seeing the car! i'm running 17 allround but may switch to 18 on the rear and 17 up front!

EGB

1,774 posts

181 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Looks good eff. Tidy. Question. Is the car any heavier with the LS than with the Rover engine. If so, does it change the 50/50 front to back weight distribution.
Any thoughts about installing traction control to make it more drivable. Torque lock up and break away on the rear drive will be even more savage. We like a savage Griff, but!

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761 posts

228 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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EGB said:
Looks good eff. Tidy. Question. Is the car any heavier with the LS than with the Rover engine. If so, does it change the 50/50 front to back weight distribution.
Any thoughts about installing traction control to make it more drivable. Torque lock up and break away on the rear drive will be even more savage. We like a savage Griff, but!
Thanks and all good questions, there was a thread from Per in Norway about engine weight, as far as I remember the Chevy is a little heavier. We've moved the battery from the footwell and put an Odyssey gel battery behind each seat, that may help a bit with the weight distribution it would be sensible though to measure the corner weights. I haven't thought much about traction control, a good system that doesn't just work on the engine would I suspect be a bugger to fit and would be expensive, I'll see how I get on with my right foot!!
I agree matching revs to gears and speed will be crucial if I am to keep it out of the scenery and I am beging to think that my billet ali flywheel might be troublesome. scratchchin

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761 posts

228 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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A friend of mine sent me before and after photos, sorry and shoot me down if you want to, but the Sportmotive set up looks so much better than the standard OEM version. I have the greatest respect for those who have tidied up their engine bays and there are some lovely examples out there, but this install is just so much neater.








GTRene

21,089 posts

248 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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I agree.

SSPPGG

2,120 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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eff eff said:
I haven't thought much about traction control, a good system that doesn't just work on the engine would I suspect be a bugger to fit and would be expensive, I'll see how I get on with my right foot!!
scratchchin
i fitted a racelogic traction control system to my ls7, just splits into the injector harness, and speed sensors on each wheel.

provided adjustable traction, full throttle shifting (that was fun), launch control. worked by sequentially dropping fuelling, and worked very well. cost was about 700 IIRC

ive no idea how a more intelligent system can be fitted, without a lot of work integrating brakes etc.

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761 posts

228 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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SSPPGG said:
i fitted a racelogic traction control system to my ls7, just splits into the injector harness, and speed sensors on each wheel.

provided adjustable traction, full throttle shifting (that was fun), launch control. worked by sequentially dropping fuelling, and worked very well. cost was about 700 IIRC

ive no idea how a more intelligent system can be fitted, without a lot of work integrating brakes etc.
That would be worth considering, I'll have a look at their stuff, did you find the system intrusive? I had an one on a BMW and nipping out of a junction was not always easy if you got a bit of tyre slip the system choked the engine not nice with a truck approaching!!