tires alternative to Dunlop SP9000 ?
tires alternative to Dunlop SP9000 ?
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MyGriffith

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67 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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I have to change my tires.
Front : 205/55 ZR 15
Rear : 225/50 ZR 16
I was very pleased with the Dunlop SP9000. They have performed well but it seems Dunlop does not produce these tires anymore (16).
Have you any suggestion for a every day use ?
Many thanks in advance. Cheers

Edited by MyGriffith on Monday 23 April 09:06

MyGriffith

Original Poster:

67 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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According to Dunlop Uk,
In size 225/50ZR16 the Sport 9000 is no longer stocked and has been replaced by the 225/50ZR16 92Y SPORT MAXX TT MFS. See link for furtherdetails on the tyre which also shows its test awards.
http://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_uk/I_want_new_tyres/ty...
But the Speed Rating is Y !

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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The SP9000's on the rear are rubbish anyway. Mine skate all over the place and will be going this year, although almost no wear. Y rating is good, as you only need W, and Y is better than W.
FFG

cureton

53 posts

189 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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If you want to keep the original sizes (15" front/16"rear)with correct speed rating, tyre selection is very limited. You may try the Dunlop 9000 in 235/50/16 ZR rear, maybe still available. My Griff came original from factory with 205/55/15 front and 235/50/16 rear. I had the SP 9000 on mine but wasn't pleased at all. The Dunlop Sport Max is not available in 15". I now have the Hankook Ventus RS2 in 205/50/15 front and 225/50/16 rear. Superb grip, no comparison to the SP 9000 but Hankook announced end of production. Maybe you still get a set somewhere. Only alternative left in this size seems the Toyo 888 semi slick. Different league and clearly not an everdays tyre esp. in the wet. Since I like to keep the original 15"/16" set up I'm in trouble as well. It looks a bit better if you are prepared to compromise with lower speed rating (V) but this is a no go over here in Germany. Might be an option if you talk to your insurer. Or you go with 16" rims all round.

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

181 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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MyGriffith said:
I have to change my tires.
Front : 205/55 ZR 15
Rear : 225/50 ZR 16
I was very pleased with the Dunlop SP9000. They have performed well but it seems Dunlop does not produce these tires anymore (16).
Have you any suggestion for a every day use ?
Many thanks in advance. Cheers

Edited by MyGriffith on Monday 23 April 09:06
I had no problem when refitting my differential, but I did do the following: a) do not tighten any of the bush mounts, just put the nut on to secure, b) support the weight of the nose of the diff with a small bottle jack (can use trolley but found smaller jack more easily adjusted whilst under the car, c)get one fixing in each side first, leaving loose, d) get the other fixings in by if necessary moving the diff nose slightly on the jack, e) once all four fixings have been located take them home, f) tighten up the bush mountings bolts, g) tighten up the front plate four fixings, h) fit and tighten the rear locknuts.

I also cleaned out the diff threaded M10 holes first with a tap and used new M10 Capheads with a little copperease on the threads. As I said all went together nicely.

Hope the above is helpful, regards, Pete

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

181 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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MyGriffith said:
I have to change my tires.
Front : 205/55 ZR 15
Rear : 225/50 ZR 16
I was very pleased with the Dunlop SP9000. They have performed well but it seems Dunlop does not produce these tires anymore (16).
Have you any suggestion for a every day use ?
Many thanks in advance. Cheers

Edited by MyGriffith on Monday 23 April 09:06
I had no problem when refitting my differential, but I did do the following: a) do not tighten any of the bush mounts, just put the nut on to secure, b) support the weight of the nose of the diff with a small bottle jack (can use trolley but found smaller jack more easily adjusted whilst under the car, c)get one fixing in each side first, leaving loose, d) get the other fixings in by if necessary moving the diff nose slightly on the jack, e) once all four fixings have been located take them home, f) tighten up the bush mountings bolts, g) tighten up the front plate four fixings, h) fit and tighten the rear locknuts.

I also cleaned out the diff threaded M10 holes first with a tap and used new M10 Capheads with a little copperease on the threads. As I said all went together nicely.

Hope the above is helpful, regards, Pete

MyGriffith

Original Poster:

67 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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cureton said:
If you want to keep the original sizes (15" front/16"rear)with correct speed rating, tyre selection is very limited. You may try the Dunlop 9000 in 235/50/16 ZR rear, maybe still available. I now have the Hankook Ventus RS2 in 205/50/15 front and 225/50/16 rear. Superb grip, no comparison to the SP 9000 but Hankook announced end of production.
Thank you for your suggestion. I have contacted Hankook in Germany but without success until now.
Any other advice about Hankook ? A premium brand ?
Other idea are welcome.
A tire retailer suggests Continental Premium Contact 2 205/55/16 88V / 225/50/16 92W but with a speed rating of V, resp. W ? Is it a good choice ? Thanks a lot.

Edited by MyGriffith on Wednesday 2nd May 09:34

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

181 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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PeteGriff said:
I had no problem when refitting my differential, but I did do the following: a) do not tighten any of the bush mounts, just put the nut on to secure, b) support the weight of the nose of the diff with a small bottle jack (can use trolley but found smaller jack more easily adjusted whilst under the car, c)get one fixing in each side first, leaving loose, d) get the other fixings in by if necessary moving the diff nose slightly on the jack, e) once all four fixings have been located take them home, f) tighten up the bush mountings bolts, g) tighten up the front plate four fixings, h) fit and tighten the rear locknuts.

I also cleaned out the diff threaded M10 holes first with a tap and used new M10 Capheads with a little copperease on the threads. As I said all went together nicely.

Hope the above is helpful, regards, Pete
Just found my lost posting? Ignore the above as it should not be here at all - how on earth did it appear in this posting!! confused

angry jock

1,005 posts

223 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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PeteGriff said:
Just found my lost posting? Ignore the above as it should not be here at all - how on earth did it appear in this posting!! confused
Think there is a fair amount of serious borkage going on at the minute Pete.

MyGriffith

Original Poster:

67 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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MyGriffith said:
I have to change my tires.
Front : 205/55 ZR 15
Rear : 225/50 ZR 16
I have contacted Hankook in Germany but without success until now.
Other idea are welcome. A tire retailer suggests Continental Premium Contact 2 205/55/16 88V / 225/50/16 92W but with a speed rating of V, resp. W ? Is it a good choice ? Thanks a lot.
Edited by MyGriffith on Wednesday 2nd May 09:34
This combination is not allowed (due to speed rating V) . I need a speed rating Z or at least W and
I have not yet found a replacement in the same brand ! All other suggestions are welcome. Many thanks.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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MyGriffith said:
This combination is not allowed (due to speed rating V) . I need a speed rating Z or at least W and
I have not yet found a replacement in the same brand ! All other suggestions are welcome. Many thanks.
Speak to your insurer as they realise its very difficlut to find above V rated in the 15 inch size. Many of us now have V rated front tyres which are rated to 149 mph anyway.
FFG

Hoover.

5,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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^^^^ just speak to your insurance company most will accept V rated (front and rear)

also whilst a tyre might be rated original spec, does not mean that it will work with the car..... most tyres out there work with convential heavy every day cars, but do not work with a light sports car... owning TVR's for the last 8 years has been a real learning curve on a lot of fronts, which would take for granted on an every day hack, and tyres is one of them smile

Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:49


Been running Kumho V70A's for the last three years, great tyres but this year just purchased some Toyo R1R's (today) due urgency of needing legal tyres wink

Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:55

carsy

3,019 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I am running the Continental`s on mine and they seem fine.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

271 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Hoover. said:
^^^^ just speak to your insurance company most will accept V rated (front and rear)

also whilst a tyre might be rated original spec, does not mean that it will work with the car..... most tyres out there work with convential heavy every day cars, but do not work with a light sports car... owning TVR's for the last 8 years has been a real learning curve on a lot of fronts, which would take for granted on an every day hack, and tyres is one of them smile

Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:49


Been running Kumho V70A's for the last three years, great tyres but this year just purchased some Toyo R1R's (today) due urgency of needing legal tyres wink

Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:55
Be interested to see how you get on with the R1R's. Been looking at them as an alternative to R888's as they may fare better in the damp/wet. What sizes did you go for?
FFG

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

181 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Speak to your insurer as they realise its very difficlut to find above V rated in the 15 inch size. Many of us now have V rated front tyres which are rated to 149 mph anyway.
FFG
I have 'V' rated Toyos on the front, insurers OK with this. They are 149 mph rated, and I donot intend to be thrashing around al day at over that!

Veg

509 posts

307 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Camskill have an offer on T1Rs. Delivered £305ish for 4. About £40 to fit after that


Hoover.

5,993 posts

266 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Hoover. said:
^^^^ just speak to your insurance company most will accept V rated (front and rear)

also whilst a tyre might be rated original spec, does not mean that it will work with the car..... most tyres out there work with convential heavy every day cars, but do not work with a light sports car... owning TVR's for the last 8 years has been a real learning curve on a lot of fronts, which would take for granted on an every day hack, and tyres is one of them smile

Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:49


Been running Kumho V70A's for the last three years, great tyres but this year just purchased some Toyo R1R's (today) due urgency of needing legal tyres wink

Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:55
Be interested to see how you get on with the R1R's. Been looking at them as an alternative to R888's as they may fare better in the damp/wet. What sizes did you go for?
FFG
205/50/15 and 225/50/16 ......... did consider 245/45/16 whilst I know they fit and work on the estorils, wasn't sure how they would fare with the OZ's... I know they are supposed to be the same width wheels 7.5's, but a mate of mine has had some major issues with wheels and tyres just recently on his caterham, so aired on side of caution.

MyGriffith

Original Poster:

67 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Veg said:
Camskill have an offer on T1Rs. Delivered £305ish for 4. About £40 to fit after that
Thank you very much. Hereafter the reply from Camskill : "The old Z rated was ZR and that just meant in excess of 49mph  and is no longer used.W is max speed 168Mph  Y rated is Max speed 186Mph and the new Z means in excess of 200mph. All 205/55/15 tyres are V rated max speed 149mph Most people go for the T1r"

and for the 205/55/15, Toyo has a V speed rating.
Unfortunatelty it is not allowed here in Belgium. I need at least a W....



MyGriffith

Original Poster:

67 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Hoover. said:
^^^^ just speak to your insurance company most will accept V rated (front and rear)
Been running Kumho V70A's for the last three years, great tyres but this year just purchased some Toyo R1R's (today) due urgency of needing legal tyres wink
Edited by Hoover. on Tuesday 29th May 23:55
I don't know Kumho V70A's . I presume it is a tire only for competition - circuit racing and not for a everyday use ?

Edited by MyGriffith on Wednesday 30th May 20:05

Hoover.

5,993 posts

266 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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MyGriffith said:
I don't know Kumho V70A's . I presume it is a tire only for competition - circuit racing and not for a everyday use ?

Edited by MyGriffith on Wednesday 30th May 20:05
They're Kumho's road legal trackday tyre, but only V rated.......

I think you have have a problem on your hands living over there in Belgium....... Bridgestone RE002 Adrenalin ?????? no idea if they will work with the car though