out rigger tube
out rigger tube
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virgil

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1,557 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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OK, so body hopefully coming off this weekend...and expecting to see some rust on the outriggers...if they need replacing - anyone know what wall thickness of tube was used and what grade? ERW or seamless??

Cheers,

Scared of Essex....

TVR Beaver

2,874 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Have you nothing to do LOL..

Only the gearbox left after that then laugh

virgil

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248 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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TVR Beaver said:
Have you nothing to do LOL..

Only the gearbox left after that then laugh
Yeah - moving house (hopefully) in 6-8 weeks!!

Gearbox IS next ;-)

Barreti

6,687 posts

261 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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This is what I used.
The joining tube was very tight and had to be hammered down the original so I think I got it right.



A couple of tips if I may:

You'll end up with offcuts of the flat plate you use for the corner flitches, use these offcuts for spacers/strengtheners under the bolts on the inside.

Dump loads of rust cure down the original tube before you hammer in the joining tube. Just in case.

virgil

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1,557 posts

248 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Barreti said:
This is what I used.
The joining tube was very tight and had to be hammered down the original so I think I got it right.



A couple of tips if I may:

You'll end up with offcuts of the flat plate you use for the corner flitches, use these offcuts for spacers/strengtheners under the bolts on the inside.

Dump loads of rust cure down the original tube before you hammer in the joining tube. Just in case.
Tips...you may indeed...

looking at the pic though...that's 1.2mm of interferance fit...you sure that's right?? you must have a HUGE hammer!!

And was it ERW?

Geoff38

789 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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I read that as 0.4mm clearance... 38 - 1.6 = 36.4 inside diameter of larger tube


virgil

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248 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Geoff38 said:
I read that as 0.4mm clearance... 38 - 1.6 = 36.4 inside diameter of larger tube
It's going to be 1.6mm WALL thickness..so x 2

38mm - (2 x 1.6mm = 3.2mm) = 34.8mm inside dia.

0.8mm wall thickness is WAY too thin..

del 203

12,728 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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virgil said:
OK, so body hopefully coming off this weekend...
I'm busy this weekend whistle

virgil

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Wednesday 25th July 2012
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del 203 said:
I'm busy this weekend whistle
Just come round for a beer about 11 oclock sunday..I won't expect you to help...honest ;-)

del 203

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273 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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virgil said:
Just come round for a beer about 11 oclock sunday..I won't expect you to help...honest ;-)
Call/txt a reminder at the weekend smile



I'll switch my phone off

Geoff38

789 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Doh ! I stand corrected , sorry for that mis-calculation.

getmecoat

Simon says

19,336 posts

245 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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virgil said:
Barreti said:
This is what I used.
The joining tube was very tight and had to be hammered down the original so I think I got it right.



A couple of tips if I may:

You'll end up with offcuts of the flat plate you use for the corner flitches, use these offcuts for spacers/strengtheners under the bolts on the inside.

Dump loads of rust cure down the original tube before you hammer in the joining tube. Just in case.
Tips...you may indeed...

looking at the pic though...that's 1.2mm of interferance fit...you sure that's right?? you must have a HUGE hammer!!

And was it ERW?
No confused in fact the bigger tube I.D is 0.4mm oversized wink

virgil

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1,557 posts

248 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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Simon says said:
No confused in fact the bigger tube I.D is 0.4mm oversized wink
Eh??

That makes 0.8mm wall thickness (unless my brain is fried)

Don't....under...stand....

Barreti

6,687 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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Guys, I don't begin to understand what you're talking about I'm afraid.

I measured these tubes with a vernier. Simple as putting it across the tube for OD and pinching the wall for the thickness.

The tube measures 38mm across the centre (diameter) and the wall is 1.6mm thick, so there is a 0.4mm difference between the Internal diameter of the bigger tube and the Outside diameter of the smaller tube. A tight interference fit.

Does that mean I stated the numbers incorrectly? Because I can't work out some of the numbers discussed (2 x 1.6 = 3.2 for example - where does 2 come from?)

I'm afraid I don't know what ERW means either.

ETA: Found what ERW means. Mine did have an obvious seam.

Edited by Barreti on Thursday 26th July 12:51


Edited by Barreti on Thursday 26th July 12:54

virgil

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248 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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Sorry - didn't mean to make it a painful discussion ;-)

ERW (Electic Resitance Welded or something like that) - basically 'normal' mild steel tubing, pretty affordable. Most normal chassis are build using it i believe. Didn't know if the TVR chassis was built using seamless, cold drawn, or high grade carbon steel...

From the measurements you took with the vernier:

outside = 38mm,
pinching the wall = 1.6mm

BUT the tube has a wall thickness all the way round, so effectively has two sides (or a top AND a bottom)...so you need to double the wall thickness when subtracting from the OD to get the ID. Hence 38mm -(2 x 1.6mm) = 34.8mm

or if it was 1.5" (38.1m) 16 guage (1.63mm) tube and and the smaller was inch and 3/8 tube (34.925mm) it's pretty much just a 0.1mm interference fit..

Still think you've just got a massive hammer...

del 203

12,728 posts

273 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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del 203 said:
virgil said:
Just come round for a beer about 11 oclock sunday..I won't expect you to help...honest ;-)
Call/txt a reminder at the weekend smile



I'll switch my phone off
I forgot frown and you didn't call ...

virgil

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1,557 posts

248 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Did you see the weather Sunday?...bugger laying under the car in that lot...Cant wait to move house and get a garage!!

Don't worry - you've not missed your oportunity to lend a hand biggrin

rev-erend

21,605 posts

308 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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Try not to weld outside in the rain .. not good for your health.