Willwood or A.P
Willwood or A.P
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h19 jjm

Original Poster:

162 posts

271 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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Now going for bigger discs and 4 pots.
I was wondering if anyone has willwood callipers and are they any good,or shall i spend the extra and get A.P racing stuff.
Could anybody reccomend a supplier.
John.

starmist

1,052 posts

271 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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I have Quinney's old Wilwood Superlites and 300mm disks. I think the pads that are fitted are a little hard for road use, as they take a few stops to warm up, and don't seem any more powerful under normal driving conditions. With softer pads I would expect more initial bite and still be hard enough for track days.

Ultimate stopping power is much better - too much for the tyres on the road, and feel is improved as there is more pedla travel to move the 8 pistons instead of 2.

The Wilwoods do not have dust seals so need a little more maintenance to ensure they don't seize up - I understand the APs do. You are paying a lot for the AP name, although you do get cross drilled disks compared to the Wilwood's plain disks.

I think the Wilwoods are around £400 for a set compared to over a grad for the APs. They will just fit under standard 15" wheels, however.

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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AP's FFFFAAARRR better than wilwoods.

stop on a sixpence
no warm up time
never out done the AP's yet!!!

BUT LOTS OF MONEY


got mine in the "spider" wheel package and they're fabulous, but i doubt i'd spend that much money.

TVR stamp on the calipers looks cool :

ian8542

615 posts

281 months

Tuesday 21st September 2004
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If you're going for alloy calipers get the ones which have dust seals fitted as they are more suitable for road use than the usual race type.
In any event keep them clean especially in winter as the aluminium will dissolve before your eyes if neglected.
I thought the brake pad material was related to how soon you stop from cold not the caliper.
Nothing wrong with Wilwood's.

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2004
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AP if you can afford it, Wilwood if you have better things to spend the money on. My Superlites have been on the car for the last several years/70 k miles/dozens of track days and sprints with no problems (touch wood!) to date.

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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I love my wilwoods, the stopping power is awesome, BUT they make a shed load of brake dust.

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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k77-widow maker said:
I love my wilwoods, the stopping power is awesome, BUT they make a shed load of brake dust.


Isn't that down to the pads and rotors?

hansdaal

273 posts

296 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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hallo Guys,

I have developed a big brake kit for the Griffith? Chimaera and S series TVR's using the TVR Tuscan calipers ( with yellow TVR logo on them) discsize 300 x 28 with seperate mounting bell and bracket.
I have fitted the kit to a Grif in Holland and it was spot on. Looks the works.
If somebody is interested I can mail pics. The price is very competetive.


greetings

Hans

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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GreenV8S said:

k77-widow maker said:
I love my wilwoods, the stopping power is awesome, BUT they make a shed load of brake dust.



Isn't that down to the pads and rotors?


No it's the Wilwood pad that causes it actually!! It's not like you can get EBC pads for them!!

ian8542

615 posts

281 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Just out of interest which Wilwood pad are you using.
Is it in the Superlite 4?

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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k77-widow maker said:

No it's the Wilwood pad that causes it actually!! It's not like you can get EBC pads for them!!


Can't you? I've used various brands including EBC, Tarox, Ferodo etc in my Superlites, I assumed you could do the same with most of the popular calipers. Bit of a swindle if it ties you into using their own brand pads.

johno

8,593 posts

311 months

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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I stand corrected, i was going on what the local "max power" type auto shop, spotty sales assistant told me.

So what pads do people go for then, any recomendations?

starmist

1,052 posts

271 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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For limited experience with Quinney's old brakes, I would be tempted to go for a softer compound than the ones fitted, which I believe (correct me if I'm wrong, Quinney) are no. 3 of 5 compounds. On the basis Quineey's got 30k from half a set of pads, I think I can afford to go a bit softer, and get a little more initial bite.

starmist

1,052 posts

271 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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Quinny said:
And a lot more dust eh Starmist

Very true, but nothing that a weekly wash can't shift!

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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i guess i have the hard ones, as i have done Castle Coombe, Goodwood & snottytown, oh an 5k road miles, and still have 50% remaining!! the soft pads must me awesome!!!