anti roll bar
anti roll bar
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stesrg

Original Poster:

1,578 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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Ok mine has not got one and its rather scarey around corners, please can anyone help me aquire one?
Thanks in advance
Steve.......

griffdude

1,923 posts

277 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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Mine hasn't got a rear one. However, uprated suspension & a geometry set up plus a ride drive course makes things a little less intimidating.

>> Edited by griffdude on Thursday 30th September 11:39

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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Mine's got one, but came without a bolt through it on the nearside. Full TVR service history etc. I can accept the nut coming loose (just about), but no bolt at all?

Independants for me from now on. Thanks to David Geralds for spotting it and correcting it, and also replacing the motorcycle bolt (wrong threaad and length) that was holding part of the exhaust system on.

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,578 posts

267 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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Still looking for a anti roll bar Anyone got any suggestions
TIA
Ste..

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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Wow blast from the past!

Scary how? Adding a rear anti roll bar is likely to make it more tail happy, which is the wrong answer if you're already suffering from excessive oversteer. Have you checked suspension geometry, damper settings, tyre pressures, suspension bushes etc?

green griff

89 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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Mine did'nt have one either. I got mine from Bell Hill Garage (TVR Breakers). They advertise in Sprint. £85 plus VAT from a scrapped 500.

You will need to change the rear wishbones as well as the early ones don't have the brackets. I bought new ones, as Bell Hill wanted the same price for secondhand.

Leven Technology fitted it. I think it took about 1.5 -2 hours labour.

Make sure you get the mounting plates and droplinks.

The difference is amazing. It has totally transformed the handling and no more tramlining!

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,578 posts

267 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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GreenV8S said:
Wow blast from the past!

Scary how? Adding a rear anti roll bar is likely to make it more tail happy, which is the wrong answer if you're already suffering from excessive oversteer. Have you checked suspension geometry, damper settings, tyre pressures, suspension bushes etc?

Yes this went to tvr power WAS CHECKED TO BE SPOT ON, the main problem starts around 110 seems to bob about (lift)to much especialy when on to much of a bumpy surface, 150 is scary, if the anti roll bar is not the way to go I think new shoks may be the answer, I had a modified sunbeam alpine which belive it or not was much faster on the track than my griff, as much as 2 seconds a little upseting to say the least.
STE.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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I've sprinted against one of those and come away very impressed indeed.

B16 RFF

883 posts

296 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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stesrg said:

I had a modified sunbeam alpine which belive it or not was much faster on the track than my griff, as much as 2 seconds a little upseting to say the least.
STE.


Blimey ! I've had two Alpines (you are talking about the little sportscars Rootes produced in the 60s? ), and they were both very pedestrian compared to the Griff. Slower than an MGB in standard form.
It must have been very heavily modified.

Paul.

stesrg

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1,578 posts

267 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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B16 RFF said:

stesrg said:

I had a modified sunbeam alpine which belive it or not was much faster on the track than my griff, as much as 2 seconds a little upseting to say the least.
STE.



Blimey ! I've had two Alpines (you are talking about the little sportscars Rootes produced in the 60s? ), and they were both very pedestrian compared to the Griff. Slower than an MGB in standard form.
It must have been very heavily modified.

Paul.


Have a squint in my profile there are a few pohtos in my link, my car was featured in the retro car mag, I modified the suspension myself and the power plant,it was a seriously moded alfa twin cam would not like to put the cost of how much I spent on it though.
Ste.

B16 RFF

883 posts

296 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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stesrg said:

Have a squint in my profile there are a few pohtos in my link, my car was featured in the retro car mag, I modified the suspension myself and the power plant,it was a seriously moded alfa twin cam would not like to put the cost of how much I spent on it though.
Ste.


Veeery nice.

Paul

MisterT

326 posts

255 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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stesrg said:

Yes this went to tvr power WAS CHECKED TO BE SPOT ON, the main problem starts around 110 seems to bob about (lift)to much especialy when on to much of a bumpy surface
STE.


The characteristics you describe sound very familiar, yet mine has rear ARB fully attached etc! Ive only had the car since March so I am still learning its quirks and foibles!

I'm reaching the conclusion that the front dampers are too soft, and the tyres have probably 'gone off' (the car is 11 years old with only 20k miles on the clock but still has original SO1's on the front).

Suspension geometry has all been checked out at TVR Power and was spot on, however I'm wondering if the suspension bushes whilst appearing ok when stationary deform under load and so cause the car to be directionally unstable?

In the short term I'm planning to fit a set of new Dunlop SP9000, and over winter to rebush and put new dampers on.

In conclusion I'm not sure fitting a rear ARB will necessarily solve your problem.

ps anyone any views on the Dunlop SP 9000's on a Griff 500? (its the only tyre I can find that will do a 235/50x16 for the rear and enable matching tread patterns fr & rr)

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,578 posts

267 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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MisterT said:

stesrg said:

Yes this went to tvr power WAS CHECKED TO BE SPOT ON, the main problem starts around 110 seems to bob about (lift)to much especialy when on to much of a bumpy surface
STE.




ps anyone any views on the Dunlop SP 9000's on a Griff 500? (its the only tyre I can find that will do a 235/50x16 for the rear and enable matching tread patterns fr & rr)



Summer tyres PROXES T1-R
235/50 ZR16 95W Rim-protection NEU, With mytyres.co.uk only £ 92.10

Try these
Ste..

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,578 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Quinny said:
Steve,

My old 4.0 griff didn't have a rear ARB, so I bought one from Chris Neils, it came in kit form with brackets that fitted to the lower wishbones.

Cost about 95 quid if I remember correctly, quite a while ago now though.

Anyway I fitted it which was pretty straight forward, and could not tell any difference at all, even on track days.

Regards

Andy.



Cheers for that andy I will persue the shoks upgrade method
Ste.

starmist

1,052 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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I believe the symptoms you are describing reflect your suspension rather than your lack of rear ARB. Fitting the ARB will prevent a little bit of roll, but only but trying to lift the inside rear wheel, as the weight transfers onto the outside one. This will cause the inside one to spin, which should be corrected by the lsd, which will transfer the drive to the outer wheel.

Some people believe that removing the rear ARB will provide more grip (less tail happiness) but when it does go, it will go big time, so up less you've balls the size of canonballs, have one fitted.

However, I would concentrate on the suspension first.

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,578 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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starmist said:
I believe the symptoms you are describing reflect your suspension rather than your lack of rear ARB. Fitting the ARB will prevent a little bit of roll, but only but trying to lift the inside rear wheel, as the weight transfers onto the outside one. This will cause the inside one to spin, which should be corrected by the lsd, which will transfer the drive to the outer wheel.

Some people believe that removing the rear ARB will provide more grip (less tail happiness) but when it does go, it will go big time, so up less you've balls the size of canonballs, have one fitted.

However, I would concentrate on the suspension first.


Hi
er no probs with getting the arse end out its just the high speed bobin, It would be nice to have a go in a griff with a new suspension setup possibly on a track or air field just to have a feel to tell the difference, would not like to spend lots of money for little or nowt The polly bushes were changed a few years ago roughly 4-5000 miles And I do not think they would wear out that fast.
Ste..

Hoover33

5,993 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Stresg.... same car as you 4.3..... original damper n springs..... bounces about all over the place on the 110 - 130 v scary.....

Also not very comfartable to drive in the rain due to unsure what is going to happen, bend or straight

Had poly bushes put on helped a bit...... looking at new damper n springs,and alignment to rectify the problem.

Doing this sooner the latter as I am not enjoying the drive....... did simlar to my S in Jan totally transformed the car, so hoping for a similar affect.