How far on a tank fuel
How far on a tank fuel
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Grumpy Griff

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183 posts

272 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Just planning the trip to Le Mans and wanted to get some idea on how far, at steady cruising speeds, the Griff will go on a full tank? Plus I have a hot start problem so I may need to carefully plan when I turn the engine off and how I'm going to get it restarted!!

The Red Baron

295 posts

206 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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I get about 220 - 250 miles on a tank ('98 Griff 500), but I usually fill up again before it gets too close to empty as I don't trust the gauge all that much.

Ballistic Banana

14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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I always reckoned for around 220 on a tank and filling up around then or before. There's a not to many long runs between garages on the auto routes so you should be ok.
Also make sure you fill up when you get down there or just before as when you leave it gets busy and mast thing you need to be us sitting in traffic at a garage..which leads nicely into WHY don't you sort tge hot start problem out?

Good luck

BB

jimed

1,508 posts

229 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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As per previous Griff mileage discussions, it all depends on how you drive the car - they can do about 30mpg if you are being sensible and cruising but as you know much less if giving it some beans - but when in France and assuming not being too silly you should get 23/25mpg so the advice above makes sense - I'd do the 220ish and not leave it too late to fill up - and as you may find yourself queuing at filling stations in (hopefully) decent sunny weather it would be less embarassing to fix the hot start problem before you go (after all it doesn't improve with leaving it and may get worse particularly in hotter weather).
Have a good trip though!
Jim

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

202 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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If a Griff tank is identical to a Chimaera tank (which I'm pretty sure it is) it holds 57 litres which is 12.55 UK Gallons.

I have seen 312 miles from a tank at a steady 80mph cruise, but that was in a 4.0 litre Chim and I was sucking on fumes at the end of the run.

The best thing you can do to establish your range is start by working out your true MPG by brimming the tank, going for a 100 mile drive or so, then brim it again.

Check the pump reading to see how much fuel you've used over the given recorded distance you've covered between the pumps.

Your genuine MPG is then an easy calculation.

Take your known accurate MPG and multiply it by 12.55, this will give you your absolute maximum range.

I suggest using 12 as your multiplier not 12.55 just to be on the safe side, this way you'll always know you've got a couple of litres in reserve.

Remember range can be dramatically altered by fuel economy, & how you drive the car can dramatically alter your fuel economy.

For example:

My 312 miles on 12 gallons is 312/12 = 26mpg Average over the 312 miles.

If you are driving a 5.0 litre Griff like it should be, you could easily be seeing 19mpg.

That would be 19mpg x 12 Uk gallons = a maximum range of 228 miles with those 2 litres spare.

Like that I would set myself a safe limit of 210 miles between fills.

But you really need to understand your car's fuel economy at different types of driving before you set your own fuel range limit.

Hope this helps?


PS: I currently get 220 miles on 50 litres of LPG with a further 150 miles available from the auxiliary petrol tank, for a total touring range of 370 miles between fills.

When I fit the smaller LPG injectors & squeeze in another 4.5 litres of gas in the LPG tanks we anticipate the dual fuel range will be 435 miles between fills biggrin

In practice it's way more than I'll ever need yes

davetherave1970

2,144 posts

269 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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yikes
Either I have a lead right foot or my gauge is out.
I fill up at 175 miles. On a long run I didn't go much further than 200 miles.
May have to do the "fill, drive 100 miles, fill and work it out!

Grumpy Griff

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183 posts

272 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Thanks everyone, 220 miles it is plus a little safety margin. Hopefully Dan at Taylor TVR can sort out the hot start issue before I go, the Griff is booked in soon. Staying in Beausejour so if you see this say hello


phazed

22,455 posts

227 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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davetherave1970 said:
yikes
Either I have a lead right foot or my gauge is out.
I fill up at 175 miles. On a long run I didn't go much further than 200 miles.
May have to do the "fill, drive 100 miles, fill and work it out!
+1 although now with MS it's often 220/230.

TV8

3,436 posts

198 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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roof on makes a big difference. With it on, I have got 280+ miles, with a reasonable of spare in the tank, at least a couple of times with a mixture of local running, fast A roads and lots of motorways

gavgavgav

1,569 posts

252 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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TV8 said:
roof on makes a big difference. With it on, I have got 280+ miles, with a reasonable of spare in the tank, at least a couple of times with a mixture of local running, fast A roads and lots of motorways
But thats because it's raining right? so you're taking it easy. Why else would the roof be on?

jesfirth

1,743 posts

265 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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I use a gallon for 2 laps of good wood -that's 5miles (-:


David Beer

3,982 posts

290 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I agree with sort the hot start before driving. Check out griff or chim pages .

tivver500

374 posts

293 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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PM me if you want the 'answers' to the hot start issues. I had this with my 500 and sorted it. That was about 8 years ago and no issues since!

Wildfire

9,917 posts

275 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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When my car was running well (changed the cam and need a re-map when funds allow it). I saw Bolton to Purley on 3/4 a tank at a steady 70mph.

These days 300 is good.

MPoxon

5,329 posts

196 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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davetherave1970 said:
yikes
Either I have a lead right foot or my gauge is out.
I fill up at 175 miles. On a long run I didn't go much further than 200 miles.
May have to do the "fill, drive 100 miles, fill and work it out!
That is about what I get. I fill up when the gauge reads 1/8 - 1/4 and normally that is around 160 - 180 miles but then most of that is roof down and foot down driving.

Wildfire

9,917 posts

275 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Just to add, if you have the roof off and targa up. Economy is... not good. Foudn this out the hard/expensive way.

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

180 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Hey! What are we doing here? Surely our cars are for fun and the fuel consumption (however good or bad) is the cost of that fun. We must be careful because there will be debates over: getting into 5th as soon as possible to save fuel, reducing tyre width, changing ecu programmes to give lean burn, etc etc. Even worse - Hybrid Griffs aaaaaah

At the end of the day, hood up or down (preferred), let us enjoy the beasts for as long as possible before the Eurocrats ban them entirely and banish us to forever drive a Prius or Hyundi i10!!!!!!!!!!!

davetherave1970

2,144 posts

269 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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PeteGriff said:
Hey! What are we doing here? Surely our cars are for fun and the fuel consumption (however good or bad) is the cost of that fun. We must be careful because there will be debates over: getting into 5th as soon as possible to save fuel, reducing tyre width, changing ecu programmes to give lean burn, etc etc. Even worse - Hybrid Griffs aaaaaah

At the end of the day, hood up or down (preferred), let us enjoy the beasts for as long as possible before the Eurocrats ban them entirely and banish us to forever drive a Prius or Hyundi i10!!!!!!!!!!!
yes Not complaining at all. The lower the MPG the more fun I'm having biggrin

waggy

225 posts

256 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Agree with petegriff , 18mpg = fun drive , loads of smiles , 30mpg = should have bought a diesel

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

180 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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davetherave1970 said:
yes Not complaining at all. The lower the MPG the more fun I'm having biggrin
Good on yer Dave, keep having fun mate.