Registering a Precat in Germany

[Russell Mc]

Is it possible or will the lack of cats make it a no no with the TUV? Despite it never having cats from new?

[C15]

Should be able to, you may have to check on the year of manufacture though, as Germany started with euro1 regs before the UK. main problem will be that you won't be allowed in the low emissions areas, as the car doesn't get a green sticker. So most of the larger towns cannot be driven to. If you live in such an area, the car cannot be kept there either.

[Russell Mc]

Cheers.

Any pointers to any useful websites you know?

[C15]

If you can read German, yes...

Biggest problem Germany only allows cars with a COC to be imported without any constraints. Unless you are Mercedes and have an illegal car according to the EU, then as you're German you can do what the hell you like.(sorry OT)...

Basic requirements in Germany are:

1) COC & V5
2) Current MOT certificate
3) Fee

Take these to the Registration Office, they will then register your car. Simple.

If you have no COC, then it becomes more difficult, as most new TVR owners find out. You have a choice then.

1. a Vollabnahme / Vollgutachten. similar to the SVA but a little stricter and can be problematic, cost normally around €500-1000.
2. Help from a grey area, to get a copy of the KFZ-Brief & TÜV certificate from a car already german registered.. Most German TVR owners are a little special and don't always want to help here...
3. Use a 'friend' who has connections and for a nominal fee, uses loopholes to get the car registered... Not 100% legal, but gets the job done... Most SP6 German TVR's are registered this way, as it saves time and personal effort / frustration.

The biggest problems you can encounter are chassis checks / finding out that the TÜV won't accept modifications which do not have an ABE - basically a part which has been made according to EU certification, and thus has an 'E' number stamped on it.

Noise certification, as this is on the COC, and unless someone gives you a copy of their doc's, the Germans go according to the noise regs, which almost no TVR meets... Especially pre-CATS......

Mail me and maybe I can help you, there are other PH'ers that live in Germany and are lets say close to a 'friend'...

Edited by C15 on Sunday 1st September 05:02

[C15]

Here are the relevant links

http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/vehicles/regi...

http://www.juraforum.de/gesetze/stvzo/
http://www.tuev-sued.de/car_vehicles - English.
http://www.tuev-sued.de/auto_fahrzeuge/bewertungen...

Edited by C15 on Sunday 1st September 04:59

[PeteGriff]

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[bezza911]

Hi All,
I am about to have the same possible issue. Been looking for a Griffith, and now started looking at German TUV concerns. As I will only use the car over the summer I could get away with just UK plates, but I still need a local E4 green sticker for the car to be allowed to drive it in our town...

Is there a particular year of car I should be looking at to make the process easier?

I am living in Germany but don't speak to lingo as yet (lessons start in November)

Any advice here will be greatly appreciated..

Thanks,

Bez

[Krautchimaera]

Hi Bez,

if you keep your english registration, it is quite easy to get a green sticker that is needed to enter an ever increasing number of German towns.
just drive to a local garage that provides TÜV testing and ask them for the sticker.
some have them lying around and are very helpful.
some may send you to the bigger TÜV station.
you can also get it there for about 5 €.
as your car is petrol engined they won't fuss about. if you come with any non COC paper diesel, forget about it

Bernd

[bezza911]

Krautchimaera said:

Hi Bez,

if you keep your english registration, it is quite easy to get a green sticker that is needed to enter an ever increasing number of German towns.
just drive to a local garage that provides TÜV testing and ask them for the sticker.
some have them lying around and are very helpful.
some may send you to the bigger TÜV station.
you can also get it there for about 5 €.
as your car is petrol engined they won't fuss about. if you come with any non COC paper diesel, forget about it

Bernd

Ha, that's funny, as we just put a green 4 on the Discovery, saved 2.5k on changing the CAT/filters etc...So just get an English car and keep the English plates, will be summer use so no biggy with the supposed 6 month change of time limit hopefully...

Cheers,

Bez