Lower main beam not working

[ronspeedsix]

I have a 97 griff with the lower lights main beam not working. Dip and main beam is only working on the lights in the pods. I would like to fix this.

Everything seems to be connected, wiring to the lower mains etc.
As I have the pods out now, doesn't seem there is something messed with like cut wires and so on.
Do all later griffs have this, lower mains not working, and main beam only in the pods ?

Anyone a clue ?

Ronald

[WinstonWolf]

I've done the pod conversion and my lower main beams also come on with the pods. Time to get your multimeter out

[5.0ltr]

I am confused here, and yep that's not difficult, the lights in the pods are your dipped and stay on all the time, the lower two are main beams so you have four head lights showing on main.

[Plan B]

I thought the pods were sidelights and dipped beam only on separate bulbs. The dipped beam being a single filament H1 bulb.
Main beam is done by the two spots in the lower grille.
Checking the obvious: have you checked the main beam fuse? Mine is a 98 Griff with M/B fuse at position 20 (15 amps). Otherwise check the relay. My M/B relay is at position 11 in the relay panel.

[ronspeedsix]

I know most griffs have only dipped beam in the pods and only main in the grille. But at mine i have only dip and main the pods. Nothing in the grille.
When i remove the main beam relay the main in the pods stop working.

So it looks like everything is is connected deliberate to operate like this.

Think i need to find the wires from the lower main lights at the fusebox, because the lower mains are connected with the main loom. Both wires at the lower mains are somewhere grounded, buth where, probably somewhere in the fusebox?

[V8 GRF]

ronspeedsix said:

I know most griffs have only dipped beam in the pods and only main in the grille. But at mine i have only dip and main the pods. Nothing in the grille.
When i remove the main beam relay the main in the pods stop working.

So it looks like everything is is connected deliberate to operate like this.

Think i need to find the wires from the lower main lights at the fusebox, because the lower mains are connected with the main loom. Both wires at the lower mains are somewhere grounded, buth where, probably somewhere in the fusebox?

That sounds like a bodge fix to me. So unless your car has been converted you should only have side and dip in the pod. Main bean in those 5" units will be rubbish.

As you have the pods out it might be worth looking at getting them converted to 7" I did that and the difference is amazing, you can actually see at night and imo the whole front end looks better.

[ronspeedsix]

I will upgrade the front with the 7" lights. Were the pods a good fit or lot's of adjusting work ?

And I still hope someone can give a hint about the lower main beams. Looked into the fusebox wiring but couldn't discover anything.
Of course I cane make my own alternative wiring but preferably I woul like it to stick original.

[Ozstyle]

Hi,

I have a late 94 Griffith, it too has the main beam in the light pods as well as the lower main beam in the front grill (all work as should). My car was built with ETB gauges as used in the Chimaera and so has the same loom which supports the main beam in the pods (you can see where the factory added the extra wiring for the lower main beams into the loom). It has the 6 relay panel behind the dash (like Chimaera) and has an extra relay for the main/dipped/flash light circuit. The car was built for the Australian market and all the wiring is original factory. Maybe your car although later, was built with this set up.
I'd definately pull all the fuses and make sure non are blown (don't trust fuse panel diagram in the manual), also check the bulbs in the lower mains have not blown iether just to eliminate this possibility.

Ozstyle

[ronspeedsix]

Pulled all the fuses, nothing blown.
As in have a Japanse griff, maybe it is an altered loom as yours is.
Where is you seperate or extra relay placed? At the fuse panel or at the loom with the loose relays?
Thanks for your help.

Ronald

[V8 GRF]

ronspeedsix said:

I will upgrade the front with the 7" lights. Were the pods a good fit or lot's of adjusting work ?

And I still hope someone can give a hint about the lower main beams. Looked into the fusebox wiring but couldn't discover anything.
Of course I cane make my own alternative wiring but preferably I woul like it to stick original.

I had the kit fitted while the car was being repaired after an accident. The pods came from Sportmotive as a full kit and as far as I'm aware S&D didn't have any issues with fitting.

http://www.sportmotive.com/partsales/headlamp.html

[ronspeedsix]

Pulled all the fuses, nothing blown.
As in have a Japanse griff, maybe it is an altered loom as yours is.
Where is you seperate or extra relay placed? At the fuse panel or at the loom with the loose relays?
Thanks for your help.

Ronald

[Ozstyle]

Hi,

there is an auxillary relay panel behind the dash, approximately inline with the left hand air air vent and a bit higher, its screwed to the bulkhead. This is where the hazard and indicator relays are as well. If you open the glovebox look up and to the right you should be able to see. It is possible to access the relays without removing the glovebox.
Hope this helps

Ozstyle

[ronspeedsix]

Oz,

Thanks for all the info. Still didn't manage to find the correct wires in the loom. Think it's gonna be the alternative way.

Ronald.