Which performance heads would you choose?
Which performance heads would you choose?
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Precat

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266 posts

247 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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I'm building a 5.2L engine with a V8D Stealth cam for road use. No track days. I have a choice of performance heads,
V8 Development stage three heads with 1.63 inlet and 1.4 exhaust valves or TVR 500 heads with 1.69 inlet and 1.45 exhaust valves.
Which performance heads would you choose and why?

Thanks in advance

GlynMo

1,142 posts

271 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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TBH, with the state of the roads in the UK, the number of fixed/mobile cameras, the crowded roads etc, what's the point if you're not doing track days?! A standard Griff (any) is fast enough to lose your licence if you're not very careful.

A900ss

3,310 posts

174 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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You can never have too much power even if only for the road smile

I'm interested to know the answer as well. I've got a 450 with a stealth pushing out 273hp but I feel its power drops off too quickly so needs better breathing. The inlet manifold and plenum would need to be increased but not sure of the the best heads to go with them.



Edited by A900ss on Saturday 14th March 15:52

Wildfire

9,915 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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V8 Developments heads here on my 4.0.

Quinny

15,849 posts

288 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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In my view the porting is far more important than the 0.05 difference in valve size.....smile

carsy

3,019 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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Quinny said:
In my view the porting is far more important than the 0.05 difference in valve size.....smile
Agree completely.

Its a nice choice to have. As to which are the best flowing i dont know.

I suspect the V8D ones are still on the standard valve seats. It doesnt leave much meat on the seat.

The TVR 500 heads will have had bigger seats fitted ( i think ). Job done properly to accomodate the big valve.


Edited by carsy on Saturday 14th March 18:08

Hoover.

5,993 posts

264 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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an interesting poised question

stesrg

1,571 posts

260 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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I had a company called cylinder head developments do my heads on my 4.3 I went for the biggest valves possible and cut 3 way also loads of porting and polishing , this made a vast improvement in power but I did go for a fast road cam and adjustable push rods and high rev followers with eprom chip she used to rev to 7200 !! :-)
Well worth it in my opinion ( also some plenum work and forced air intake )
Thought I would go the turbo route this time ?
Ste.

Andav469

965 posts

159 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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I agree with the above, decent porting and calve seats will yield greater results than a tiny increase in valve size.
mine is a V8 developments 5.0 engine giving a decent result.
I'm still running on the 14CUX, so still some more to be had smile


SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

253 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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V8D 5l with a Stealth cam and 500 fly wheel .I`m not sure if the heads are three or four .Its running on the Emerald ECU


Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

201 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Interesting to see those two graphs side by side, one has more average torque one peaks out right at the end more than the other, one on emerald ecu one 14cux

phazed

22,447 posts

226 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Daz, you have stage 4 heads.

to the OP whoever you are, fork out for stage 4. heads.

Andav469

965 posts

159 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Alexdaredevils said:
Interesting to see those two graphs side by side, one has more average torque one peaks out right at the end more than the other, one on emerald ecu one 14cux
Interesting indeed, so the 20hp difference is for 500rpm and the torque on one peaks and drops quickly, obviously could be dyno differences/different day etc but I expected more if going for an aftermarket ECU,

Edited by Andav469 on Sunday 15th March 08:49

Quinny

15,849 posts

288 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, and stage 99.9999 it's all pub BS anywaysmile

One mans stage 2 head is another mans stage 4.........

Hoover.

5,993 posts

264 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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just as a thought the TVR world keep going to the same names........ just wondering if there is more out there in RV8/V8 tuning world that may do something a bit different that might offer a better package, as there is a whole kit car world out there scratchchin

leerdam23

606 posts

283 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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ITBs are the way to go, with a nasty overlappy cam....breathing at high rpm but no shunt from cross contamination...imho

Andav469

965 posts

159 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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leerdam23 said:
ITBs are the way to go, with a nasty overlappy cam....breathing at high rpm but no shunt from cross contamination...imho
Completly agree, it's just starts to get expensive when FI gives you a minimum 100bhp in one go

Sardonicus

19,311 posts

243 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Have a talk to Peter Burgess he knows the RV8 cyl head very well and tells it how it is wink and dont bullst ... http://www.burgesstuning.free-online.co.uk/

Quinny

15,849 posts

288 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Knowing precat.........he'll end up putting the V8D head on the 1,3,5,7 bank and the TVR head on the 2,4,6,8 bank hehehehe

Precat

Original Poster:

266 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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You could be right Quinny
The best of both worlds laugh