GAZ or AVO?
GAZ or AVO?
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David H

Original Poster:

809 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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I know these have both been discussed in the past and I have searched the boards and read up on them but I would appreciate any new experiences or any comments at all on AVO or GAZ dampers.

I know the £950 Nitron option is hailed as being the best but i'm not willing to spend that sort of money at the minute. The AVO or GAZ kits come in at £400 with springs, so it's a hell of a difference (although i'm sure the Nitrons are worth the money).

Opinions appreciated

starmist

1,052 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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Go on, you know you want to!

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Used both. Gaz definitely my current favs. Using them on the 520 and about to fit a set to the Cerbie.

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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One vote for AVO from me. Gaz are my least favourite damper ever

David H

Original Poster:

809 posts

270 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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This is the problem you see, conflicting information from respected sources.

I guess it depends what you want from a damper. My current items are standard (10 years old) and may be quite worn (i'll remove them and take a closer look soon) so both manufacturers offerings would be an improvement.

I'm not going to be buying for a couple of months so I guess I have some time to think it over and do a little more research

Oh and Starmist, i'm guessing that is a picture of a Nitron damper? I can't see images at work, which may be a blessing because I don't want to fall for them babies, they're too expensive for me

>> Edited by David H on Friday 21st January 08:58

gemini

11,352 posts

293 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Avos onthe Chimaera went well and on the Tasmin

laz11

517 posts

276 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Well I had Avos, the 500 springs and poly bushes put on my early 4.3 recently. At first I wasn't that impressed....but after I had i had the geometry set up it drives sooo much better. Much better controled over bumbs and bad road surfaces and loads more grip. So much easier to drive fast on a twisty road.

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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If you can get a set of gaz shocks (with springs) for £400, can you get me a set too??

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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If you can get a set of gaz shocks (with springs) for £400, can you get me a set too??

chrisj

517 posts

284 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I use GAZ shocks on my Marcos with no complaints.
When I was shopping around I was told by a knowledgable friend that the people who set up GAZ are the people who used to supply parts to AVO.
I can't verify this, but they do look very similar.
Hope this helps.

Pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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My avo's cost nearer £500 than £400
I thought Joolz did an intermediate nitron which was a bit cheaper,but i think Joolz only fit them himself.

Joolz can you clarify?

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I do an intermediate damper, it's not made by nitron though, but it is alloy bodied and made to my specs so it's good

barbon

94 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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I hillclimb my 4.3 bv grif on avo`s ,works really well.Unless you are planning to do plenty of track racing why spend £1000 plus fitting? All these people with Nitrons unless they compete why do they need to
change the settings on there dampers all the time?

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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barbon said:
I hillclimb my 4.3 bv grif on avo`s ,works really well.Unless you are planning to do plenty of track racing why spend £1000 plus fitting? All these people with Nitrons unless they compete why do they need to
change the settings on there dampers all the time?



If you just do hillclimbs then you're not asking much of the heat dissipation of the damper, so steel bodied units aren't a big issue. However if you're thrashing round a track for 20 minutes the dampers soon become too hot to touch. on an AVO the performance will be dropping off as it heats up, on a nitron or similar damper it'll stay as consistent as possible. Not important for sprints etc but quite important if you're into track days and appreciate a car that maintains it's chassis balance for prolonged periods of hard work.

Adjustments : half the fun of aftermarket suspension is that you get the chance to play. i wuold argue that if you leave your avos set at one setting all the time you're maybe not exploiting a potential tuning aid which may improve your performances. if you never touch them though how would you know?

Don't belittle people spending money on decent kit and wanting to play with it, it's what it's there for!

back at ya

>> Edited by joospeed on Tuesday 25th January 10:56

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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These guys do adjustable Avos for about £75 each form what I can remeber, thats not including the Springs though PROVEN PRODUCTS

BB

David H

Original Poster:

809 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Springs are about £20 each and Rally Design do GAZ dampers for similar price to the AVO's so both sets are £400 including springs, VAT and delivery.

>> Edited by David H on Tuesday 25th January 15:40

jamiet

1,536 posts

281 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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How much is it for someone like Peninsula to do a geometry set up after you've fitted the shocks yourself?

David H

Original Poster:

809 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Does anyone know the open and closed damper length please?

Oh and I think it's between £100 and £150 depending where you go Jamie. I think Joospeed can carry out this service?

>> Edited by David H on Tuesday 25th January 15:43

WildfireS3

9,947 posts

281 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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joospeed said:

barbon said:
I hillclimb my 4.3 bv grif on avo`s ,works really well.Unless you are planning to do plenty of track racing why spend £1000 plus fitting? All these people with Nitrons unless they compete why do they need to
change the settings on there dampers all the time?




If you just do hillclimbs then you're not asking much of the heat dissipation of the damper, so steel bodied units aren't a big issue. However if you're thrashing round a track for 20 minutes the dampers soon become too hot to touch. on an AVO the performance will be dropping off as it heats up, on a nitron or similar damper it'll stay as consistent as possible. Not important for sprints etc but quite important if you're into track days and appreciate a car that maintains it's chassis balance for prolonged periods of hard work.

Adjustments : half the fun of aftermarket suspension is that you get the chance to play. i wuold argue that if you leave your avos set at one setting all the time you're maybe not exploiting a potential tuning aid which may improve your performances. if you never touch them though how would you know?

Don't belittle people spending money on decent kit and wanting to play with it, it's what it's there for!

back at ya

>> Edited by joospeed on Tuesday 25th January 10:56


You learn somthing new every day. Cheers Jools. I take it AVOs/GAZ/SPAX are ok for hard road driving?

barbon

94 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Stay cool jool, we seem to agree, if you are NOT doing
track days or track racing (tho mine seemed to do very well at Zolder and the Nurburgh rink) you dont need to spend quite as much money to get a good performance.Not belittling just a little good advice
for people with a limited budget.