Is shock mount an M12 ?
Is shock mount an M12 ?
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FFMan

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271 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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By some chance it looks as if these http://tvrparts.co.uk/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-c... are an exact match for a Yamaha XT350 lower shock absorber bush.

Can anyone confirm or deny if the bolt fitting is M12 ?

thanks

stevesprint

1,121 posts

201 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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FFMan said:
Can anyone confirm or deny if the bolt fitting is M12 ?
The factory shock bolts are 1/2 UNF


FFMan

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423 posts

271 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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thanks - might work with a bit of fettling if I can't fund the bush elsewhere.

thanks

ray von

2,927 posts

274 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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I don't know if I've misunderstood your post, but please don't tell me you're going to fit an M12 bolt instead of a 1/2" UNF

FFMan

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423 posts

271 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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no I wouldn't do that to my TVR for sure.

I was considering the whether I could use the TVR bush on the Yamaha suspension, but as it turns out I think I found a supplier who should have the right parts. I had to cut away the bolt as it was seized solid to the bush on the Yamaha and I didn't want to have to buy a complete new damper

ray von

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274 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Ah I see. I did hear a horror story a few years ago where someone had completely rebuilt his Griff and had used metric bolts yikes

portzi

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197 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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ray von said:
Ah I see. I did hear a horror story a few years ago where someone had completely rebuilt his Griff and had used metric bolts yikes
Unfortunately that is a gamble when purchasing a car from a home mechanic or even a specialist!! who has very little knowledge of the TVR quirks smile,0.7 mm different between 1/2 inch UNF and M12!!!!!

ray von

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274 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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portzi said:
ray von said:
Ah I see. I did hear a horror story a few years ago where someone had completely rebuilt his Griff and had used metric bolts yikes
Unfortunately that is a gamble when purchasing a car from a home mechanic or even a specialist!! who has very little knowledge of the TVR quirks smile,0.7 mm different between 1/2 inch UNF and M12!!!!!
yes the car was done by someone who "rebuilds and restores cars for a living mate. It's what I do, I know what I'm doing" Then it was put right by someone who really knew what they were doing biggrin



portzi

2,325 posts

197 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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ray von said:
portzi said:
ray von said:
Ah I see. I did hear a horror story a few years ago where someone had completely rebuilt his Griff and had used metric bolts yikes
Unfortunately that is a gamble when purchasing a car from a home mechanic or even a specialist!! who has very little knowledge of the TVR quirks smile,0.7 mm different between 1/2 inch UNF and M12!!!!!
yes the car was done by someone who "rebuilds and restores cars for a living mate. It's what I do, I know what I'm doing" Then it was put right by someone who really knew what they were doing biggrin
TVR'S hey pal, l am sure Peter wheeler insisted that they were built with imperial sizes and not metric smile. What bolt sizes are the T-cars built with?

stevesprint

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201 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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portzi said:
TVR'S hey pal, l am sure Peter wheeler insisted that they were built with imperial sizes and not metric smile. What bolt sizes are the T-cars built with?
Griffs were built with both metric and imperial sizes. The chassis to body and exhaust tray bolts are M10 and the chassis to suspension bolts are 7/16unc and 1/2unf.


portzi

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197 months

Sunday 3rd January 2016
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stevesprint said:
portzi said:
TVR'S hey pal, l am sure Peter wheeler insisted that they were built with imperial sizes and not metric smile. What bolt sizes are the T-cars built with?
Griffs were built with both metric and imperial sizes. The chassis to body and exhaust tray bolts are M10 and the chassis to suspension bolts are 7/16unc and 1/2unf.
Why does that not surprise me Steve, TVR mixing metric and imperial any engineers worst nightmare.

ray von

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274 months

Sunday 3rd January 2016
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portzi said:
stevesprint said:
portzi said:
TVR'S hey pal, l am sure Peter wheeler insisted that they were built with imperial sizes and not metric smile. What bolt sizes are the T-cars built with?
Griffs were built with both metric and imperial sizes. The chassis to body and exhaust tray bolts are M10 and the chassis to suspension bolts are 7/16unc and 1/2unf.
Why does that not surprise me Steve, TVR mixing metric and imperial any engineers worst nightmare.
It all adds to the fun pwopa engineers spot this sort of thing straight away, I struggle with everything else though biggrin
P.S. IIRC 7/16 UNF not UNC

stevesprint

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201 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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ray von said:
P.S. IIRC 7/16 UNF not UNC
Sorry my mistake, I was caught out as they are different size bolts but with the same Threads Per Inch of 20.

I've since found this table that shows 7/16 and 1/2 with 20 TPI and therefore both are UNF.

Threads Per Inch (TPI) Table
Bolt Coarse Thread Fine Thread
Size UNC UNF
1/4 20 28
5/16 18 24
3/8 16 24
7/16 14 20
1/2 13 20
9/16 12 18
5/8 11 18
3/4 10 16
7/8 9 14
1 8 12
1-1/8 7 12
1-1/4 7 12
1-3/8 6 12
1-1/2 6 12