Griff more and more a Classic
Discussion
I have a 98 Griff and love it. This is the problem I have with the Griff, it being a classic. I really want to buy a Sagaris or TuscanS 2 in 2 years time, but I think I'll probably be making a mistake chopping the Griff in.
No way can I afford both, a bit of a dilemma really.
What would you lot do?
No way can I afford both, a bit of a dilemma really.
What would you lot do?
Nothing wrong with the T350 as far as I'm aware. But like most high performance cars they tend to change hands a couple of times for the first few years. Lucky peeps who can afford depreciation like to experience latest models (cars) and move onto the next new one fast. Generalisation but look at previous owners of the classic Tivs and then when the car reaches 'classic status' owners tend to hang onto them longer. Well thats what I reckon anyhow 
groucho said:its always said that you buy a TVR with your heart and not your head, do what in your heart you really feel you must. Me? my Sons buying my Griff' in a couple of years time, if he then decides to sell it later I'll buy it back
I have a 98 Griff and love it. This is the problem I have with the Griff, it being a classic. I really want to buy a Sagaris or TuscanS 2 in 2 years time, but I think I'll probably be making a mistake chopping the Griff in.
No way can I afford both, a bit of a dilemma really.
What would you lot do?
groucho said:ive done it!chopped in my last griff,a lovely one,for a tuscan,within 6 months im back in a griff.will never be tempted to stray again.i think the reason there are so many t350's for sale is that the "new model" novelty has gone,and people are realising that its actually not that good a choice.i never understood what market it was aimed at?if you wanted a sportscar you could buy the tamora,if you wanted a gt(and could still take the roof off)then you could but a tuscan.i think the few tams you see advertsed are due to them not being a popular seller.i think the tam will be the first s6 tvr to start increasing in value,albeit not for a while yet.
I have a 98 Griff and love it. This is the problem I have with the Griff, it being a classic. I really want to buy a Sagaris or TuscanS 2 in 2 years time, but I think I'll probably be making a mistake chopping the Griff in.
No way can I afford both, a bit of a dilemma really.
What would you lot do?
i reckon the Tamora is a bit of a "in the know" car.
never met an owner that wasn't chuffed to bits with it. they handle beautifully and go well, if the engine is a bit "bikey".
a true successor to the Griff IMHO. good used buy. but like the rest of you..just can't flog me Griff!
so just having to make it MORE & MORE GRIFFY!
never met an owner that wasn't chuffed to bits with it. they handle beautifully and go well, if the engine is a bit "bikey".
a true successor to the Griff IMHO. good used buy. but like the rest of you..just can't flog me Griff!
so just having to make it MORE & MORE GRIFFY!
groucho said:
I have a 98 Griff and love it. This is the problem I have with the Griff, it being a classic. I really want to buy a Sagaris or TuscanS 2 in 2 years time, but I think I'll probably be making a mistake chopping the Griff in.
No way can I afford both, a bit of a dilemma really.
What would you lot do?
Couldn't sell it unless it was to a family member.
Simple as that. Me & The Griff are in it for the long run.
I agree it is quickly becoming an exclusive classic. And I think it really appeals to the collector-type a lot.
But where it (and so many other classic-type cars) lets the driver down is on safety. Hence the reason I chopped in the second of my Griffs. I'm not saying everyone has that concern, but I did because I like to give the beast a damn good thrashing, thereby increasing the scope for error. Having been driving a Cerb now for a while I can say hand on heart I'm much happier hooning in it than I ever was in the Griff.
Park it up in the garage and very time I'd choose the Griff. Take it out on the road and I'd say there's plenty of competition in terms of driver fun, driveability and outright pace.
But where it (and so many other classic-type cars) lets the driver down is on safety. Hence the reason I chopped in the second of my Griffs. I'm not saying everyone has that concern, but I did because I like to give the beast a damn good thrashing, thereby increasing the scope for error. Having been driving a Cerb now for a while I can say hand on heart I'm much happier hooning in it than I ever was in the Griff.
Park it up in the garage and very time I'd choose the Griff. Take it out on the road and I'd say there's plenty of competition in terms of driver fun, driveability and outright pace.
I have to say that I think the T350T is the car Iwould love to own after the Griffith, but I do not want the S6 issues with it ... I may stray if they put the AJP8 into it, but why would I have a S6 engine ...
The performance of the T350 versus the Griffith is not that much more that I think I'm missing something, and there is something still very exclusive about owning a Grififth !!
The performance of the T350 versus the Griffith is not that much more that I think I'm missing something, and there is something still very exclusive about owning a Grififth !!
angusfaldo said:
But where it (and so many other classic-type cars) lets the driver down is on safety.
True but that goes for a lot of classics. You could however fit it with traction control and ABS.
In terms of performance: I saw the dynograph of the 3.6 S6 on the Tamora/T350 thread; must say I'm not impressed.
gerjo said:
But where it (and so many other classic-type cars) lets the driver down is on safety.
True but that goes for a lot of classics. You could however fit it with traction control and ABS.
In terms of performance: I saw the dynograph of the 3.6 S6 on the Tamora/T350 thread; must say I'm not impressed.
A standard T350 will produce close to its factory qouted BHP. Torque is again what you would expect in comparison with the factory figures. What it does not have is the mid and low down torque of the 5 litre RV8 cars.
Performance on the dyno is one thing - road or circuit is another matter.
gerjo said:
Taking a look at the PH classifieds:
Cerbera: 43 for sale
Chim: 93 !
Griffs: 24
T350: 21 !
Tuscan : 40
Griffs are getting rarer and rarer.
What's wrong with the T350, so many for sale already? Furthermore, only 5 Tamora's for sale.
A couple of months ago I saw a T350 for sale and nearly bought it. However, before I shelled out any cash I went into the relevant PH Forum to ask what their experiences were. I was pretty damn shocked at the negative response from many T350 and Tam owners. It totally put me off buying one.
If the Griff does start getting into the serious classic market, I think there will be many more on offer as soon as the price rises above 20k.
The T350C may not have the low down torque of the Griff but there was NO WAY I could keep up with one on the track. The cornering on the T350 made my suspension look like a Mk3 VW Golf (and the CL model at that).
Ian A.
The T350C may not have the low down torque of the Griff but there was NO WAY I could keep up with one on the track. The cornering on the T350 made my suspension look like a Mk3 VW Golf (and the CL model at that).
Ian A.
Guillotine said:
i reckon the Tamora is a bit of a "in the know" car.
never met an owner that wasn't chuffed to bits with it. they handle beautifully and go well, if the engine is a bit "bikey".
a true successor to the Griff IMHO. good used buy. but like the rest of you..just can't flog me Griff!
so just having to make it MORE & MORE GRIFFY!
I can't understand why the Tuscan suffers from the S6 stigma and not (so much so) the Tamora. Is it cos the lower capacity Tamora block gives less problems? Like for like Tuscans seem cheaper than Tamoras which I find odd.
lazyitus said:
I have a 98 Griff and love it. This is the problem I have with the Griff, it being a classic. I really want to buy a Sagaris or TuscanS 2 in 2 years time, but I think I'll probably be making a mistake chopping the Griff in.
No way can I afford both, a bit of a dilemma really.
What would you lot do?
Couldn't sell it unless it was to a family member.
Simple as that. Me & The Griff are in it for the long run.
Me too. I don't think I could ever sell. Thought about it a bit, nope, never could.
gerjo said:...and there were probably more Chimaeras made than the others put together. I guess the relatively small number for sale here is a reflection of the wider audience it enjoys compared to the more 'enthusiast' nature of the people on this site?
Taking a look at the PH classifieds:
Cerbera: 43 for sale
Chim: 93 !
Griffs: 24
T350: 21 !
Tuscan : 40
richb said:
The cornering on the T350 made my suspension look like a Mk3 VW Golf - Ian A.
Ian, have you got Nitrons on yours? Rich...
hi Rich,
I have the special Koni's, comparable to the Nitrons and even with those the T350 is quite a lot faster on the track. Of course, also a lot to do with the driver in question and the amount of risk you are willing to take; e.g. there were Griffs and Chims going faster around the track than T350/Tuscan's last year at Zolder.
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