Where to get geometry setup?
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Now I've reassembled my wishbones, I need to get the geometry set up again. Most tyre places can do toe, but not many can do camber, and since this needs doing first, I'm a bit stuck.
Can anyone recommend anywhere in the midlands where I can get it all set up again, and ideally who can offer advice on the Nitron set up as well?
Cheers
Can anyone recommend anywhere in the midlands where I can get it all set up again, and ideally who can offer advice on the Nitron set up as well?
Cheers
Horizon Motorsport (www.horizonmotorsport.co.uk/), or R T Racing in Sheffield would be favourites.
>> Edited by Martin_S on Monday 28th March 09:59
>> Edited by Martin_S on Monday 28th March 09:59
You could try a local laser alignment place in Yellow pages, if they let you do 'assist' its OK. You will need to take the geometry settings with you. I would definitely have a laser alignment after refurb, so that you can set the rear toe but more importantly ensure you get a good thrust angle. I hope you made sure the rear toe adjusters are nice & free + lubed (I had to re-strip mine doh).
Our local Ford main dealer has the laser & very good rates, but only did it the once....
Dave
Our local Ford main dealer has the laser & very good rates, but only did it the once....
Dave
Cheers guys. I was going to go with standard. Although it's too early to say if there have been any improvements (I bloody well hope there will be) I have noticed that the rear end tracks better through corners than before. Overall it feels more secure. I expect this is because I have more toe in at the back. I definitely have more camber - it's visible. Steve whatshisface was recommended to me before, so I'll probably give him a tinkle as I expect he could do the Nitrons as well.
I'm not sure what standard is but if it's of interest mine has 1.5deg neg camber at the rear and 1.75deg neg camber at the front. I don't have the toe measurements. These measurements were taken with no one in the car and fairly low on fuel. I presume when figures are quoted they are all based on an empty car and not with people sitting in them?
Our set-ups are closely guarded secrets, after 1000's of manhours of tweeking & testing what makes you think you can have them for free? Particularly when someone will alwasy slag them off....
Tyre / wheel / dampers / springs / wishbone types / driver style .... all different anyway. Plenty of comments around on extra toe & camber, cant remember anybody being supportive of the parallel aligment, so I'd suggest higher limits of factory settings for toe & camber would be a good target initially.
The factory specs are a reasonable starting point, I've quoted the ones I have below (from the factory wheel upgrade docs).
Dave
Front & rear camber 0.75 to 1.25degs negative, as equal as possible side to side
Front tracking (toe) 10 to 20 minutes TOTAL ACROSS AXLE (5 to 10 minutes each wheel)
Rear tracking (toe) 4 to 6 minutes EACH WHEEL (as equal as possible side to side)
Front castor 4.75 to 5.25deg Positive (more important that each side is within 0.5deg of the other)
NOTE: As the front and rear wheel alignment are adjustable independently, but only the front wheels are connected to each other (by the rack) it is important that the pair of rear wheels are aligned to the nominal centreline of the car and not just to each other. The castor is not usually adjusted, the spacer at the upper ball joint is simply to ensure adequate clearance at the full extents of negative camber adjustment.
Tyre / wheel / dampers / springs / wishbone types / driver style .... all different anyway. Plenty of comments around on extra toe & camber, cant remember anybody being supportive of the parallel aligment, so I'd suggest higher limits of factory settings for toe & camber would be a good target initially.
The factory specs are a reasonable starting point, I've quoted the ones I have below (from the factory wheel upgrade docs).
Dave
Front & rear camber 0.75 to 1.25degs negative, as equal as possible side to side
Front tracking (toe) 10 to 20 minutes TOTAL ACROSS AXLE (5 to 10 minutes each wheel)
Rear tracking (toe) 4 to 6 minutes EACH WHEEL (as equal as possible side to side)
Front castor 4.75 to 5.25deg Positive (more important that each side is within 0.5deg of the other)
NOTE: As the front and rear wheel alignment are adjustable independently, but only the front wheels are connected to each other (by the rack) it is important that the pair of rear wheels are aligned to the nominal centreline of the car and not just to each other. The castor is not usually adjusted, the spacer at the upper ball joint is simply to ensure adequate clearance at the full extents of negative camber adjustment.
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