Disillusioned with my Griff ..........
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Nitrons would deffiantly help from what I am lead to believe, one of the best upgrades to aid road handling.
Not been in a Tesco so cant comment on whether they would bring it up to the same spec, guess not, as the chassis etc are obviosley improved(well hopefully should be) with the newer motors?
BB
Not been in a Tesco so cant comment on whether they would bring it up to the same spec, guess not, as the chassis etc are obviosley improved(well hopefully should be) with the newer motors?
BB
I have just fitted Nitrons, and although they are not being set up until Wednesday I think they are an improvement. The back end feels much more plants, and I feel I can dive into corners much faster with less risk of the back end breaking away.
Don't think you'll get to T350 levels though.
Don't think you'll get to T350 levels though.
I've driven a T350 and have a sorted griff.
You're right! the T350 is a beaut! Fabulously handling roadcar, and i'm sure equally good on the track.
You can get your own griff NEAR to that standard without spending £30K! By using someone like Joospeed or Peninsula (depending on area) and a shopping list of...
Full gas rosed Nitons
Polybushes
FULL SET UP...on track if possible!
adjustable drop links.
Most Griffs I drive now feel whooly and some AWEFULL!
early cars are 10 yrs + and have little mileage and they seize up...really! even mine feel tight/stiff after the winter break, but by mid summer its FAB!
Well worth doing as your shocks will be past their best anyway, the original set up was actually pretty good in its day.
have fun!
You're right! the T350 is a beaut! Fabulously handling roadcar, and i'm sure equally good on the track.
You can get your own griff NEAR to that standard without spending £30K! By using someone like Joospeed or Peninsula (depending on area) and a shopping list of...
Full gas rosed Nitons
Polybushes
FULL SET UP...on track if possible!
adjustable drop links.
Most Griffs I drive now feel whooly and some AWEFULL!
early cars are 10 yrs + and have little mileage and they seize up...really! even mine feel tight/stiff after the winter break, but by mid summer its FAB!
Well worth doing as your shocks will be past their best anyway, the original set up was actually pretty good in its day.
have fun!
sphericals to you to peter 
Gas Nitrons... very cool
Rose jointed Gas Nitrons...ice berg!
(Rose was the trade name of the original joint patented) like saying Hoover for Vacuum cleaner.
no bushes; bearing mounted where bush normally goes and metal spacers fill the rest, bearing sits in a sherical metal joint, to reduce the horizontal shift of the suspension, keeping in "in true position" so better handlin'.
there has to be some movement up and down ofcourse hence the bearing, and some allowance for movement horizontally hence the ball type joint.
>> Edited by Guillotine on Saturday 2nd April 22:01
Gas Nitrons... very cool
Rose jointed Gas Nitrons...ice berg!
(Rose was the trade name of the original joint patented) like saying Hoover for Vacuum cleaner.
no bushes; bearing mounted where bush normally goes and metal spacers fill the rest, bearing sits in a sherical metal joint, to reduce the horizontal shift of the suspension, keeping in "in true position" so better handlin'.
there has to be some movement up and down ofcourse hence the bearing, and some allowance for movement horizontally hence the ball type joint.
>> Edited by Guillotine on Saturday 2nd April 22:01
Can't vouch for a T350 but I've tried my griff back to back with a few tuscans and I know which is better and it isn't the newer design.
Just spent the day at Goodwood hooning around and while the car was seriously unsettled by some of the track it did take all of it nicely in it's stride and that is the stock setup (although I have just had the entire geometry reset as I found the rear was more than a little off).
Maybe I wasn't trying hard enough but the real issue was bumps unsettling the rear of the car under braking - everything else was beautifully tight on turn in but supple through the corner.
Just spent the day at Goodwood hooning around and while the car was seriously unsettled by some of the track it did take all of it nicely in it's stride and that is the stock setup (although I have just had the entire geometry reset as I found the rear was more than a little off).
Maybe I wasn't trying hard enough but the real issue was bumps unsettling the rear of the car under braking - everything else was beautifully tight on turn in but supple through the corner.
I do believe far to many people spend good money on engine upgrades before even glancing at their chassis dynamics/ ride performance.
I guess I would off spent the equivalent to a 100+hp engine upgrade(based on 100ukp per hp) on brakes,dampers,springs,arb,wheels and tyres,without touching a fairly standard engine.
You would be shocked at the cars capabilities now,and although admititely iv'e only driven one T350 and a couple of Tuscans when i've been in the UK,as a total driving package the Chim would trance them.In the twist'ies, i've happily mixed it up with Elise's,Exige's and GT3's
If you want to keep hold of you RV8 TVR and want it to handle the same or if not better than a later SP6 car' ,spend the money on the chassis.
Sorry if this sounds like a bragging post,but you won't believe how much you can tame these animals.
>> Edited by nztrev on Sunday 3rd April 08:24
I guess I would off spent the equivalent to a 100+hp engine upgrade(based on 100ukp per hp) on brakes,dampers,springs,arb,wheels and tyres,without touching a fairly standard engine.
You would be shocked at the cars capabilities now,and although admititely iv'e only driven one T350 and a couple of Tuscans when i've been in the UK,as a total driving package the Chim would trance them.In the twist'ies, i've happily mixed it up with Elise's,Exige's and GT3's
If you want to keep hold of you RV8 TVR and want it to handle the same or if not better than a later SP6 car' ,spend the money on the chassis.
Sorry if this sounds like a bragging post,but you won't believe how much you can tame these animals.
>> Edited by nztrev on Sunday 3rd April 08:24
It depends what floats your boat. I've gone down the handling upgrades route first but I know others who get more enjoyment out of power upgrades.
Torquemada: my Griff is a similar age to yours. Even though there was no obvious failing, at 8/9yrs old everything was a bit saggy. I have just gone for Nitrons (which come with new springs), wishbone and ARB poly' bushes all round and rose jointed, adjustable drop links for the ARBs. Horribly expensive but it has made the handling very much tighter and more secure on the road. Will be on track at Donington on Wednesday so will expect to see an improvement there and good manners on the edge of traction.
It still feels different to a T350 (from what I can remember) but I don't think you would be disappointed by the comparison.
Torquemada: my Griff is a similar age to yours. Even though there was no obvious failing, at 8/9yrs old everything was a bit saggy. I have just gone for Nitrons (which come with new springs), wishbone and ARB poly' bushes all round and rose jointed, adjustable drop links for the ARBs. Horribly expensive but it has made the handling very much tighter and more secure on the road. Will be on track at Donington on Wednesday so will expect to see an improvement there and good manners on the edge of traction.
It still feels different to a T350 (from what I can remember) but I don't think you would be disappointed by the comparison.
I don't see why a Griffith or Chimaera shouldn't handle as well as any of the recent two seaters. It's a similar weight, similar layout unequal twin wishbone suspension, similar stiffness tubular chassis. There are differences but not dramatic ones. As far as I can see it's just a matter of putting the work in to bush development to get the best combination of compliance and geometry control, and fine tuning the geometry and spring/damper rates.
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