No ignition light and no start
No ignition light and no start
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FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Fuel pump seems to prime, car locks/unlocks, hazards and lights work as do window electrics. No indicators or wipers. No red or orange light when turn the key and obviously not starting. Any ideas.
FFG

Edited by FlipFlopGriff on Sunday 19th November 11:28

Penelope Stoppedit

11,209 posts

130 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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When you mention not starting do you mean cranking but not firing or not cranking?

What was the outcome of https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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No lights no cranking, just dead.
FFG

Penelope Stoppedit

11,209 posts

130 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Loss of supply to ignition switch?
Check main positive termination points at battery or starter and fusebox to ignition switch, if all ok check at ignition switch

Edited by Penelope Stoppedit on Sunday 19th November 12:58

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

278 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Does your car have the inline 80A fuse in the birds nest in the footwell? That might have blown.

Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Got power to the ignition switch. 12v, then one white live on first turn and 2nd live on cranking. No power to coil, instrument lights works but nothing relating to the stalks (wipers, main beam, indicators) works. No heater fan either.
Got to get my case ready as off to Dubai very early in the morning so will have to have a look next weekend.
FFG

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Colin RedGriff said:
Does your car have the inline 80A fuse in the birds nest in the footwell? That might have blown.
It does, but not a 100A (its a pre cat).
FFG

Penelope Stoppedit

11,209 posts

130 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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A incorrectly wired immobiliser could cause these failures or the loss of engine/body earth returns

Edited by Penelope Stoppedit on Sunday 19th November 14:33

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Where is the earth on the engine and does this run back to the battery? the earth wire was changed about 3 years ago as there was little left of it so just want to check its still making a good connection.

FFG

Penelope Stoppedit

11,209 posts

130 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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I apologise for not replying sooner, I thought someone else would have replied to your above post, I don't know the cable runs for your car

MPO

264 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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There is an earth strap on the back of the near side head on a Pre-Cat.

MPO

paul2000

743 posts

241 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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HI that sounds the sane as the problem i had i few days ago, turned out to be just a fuse,

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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paul2000 said:
HI that sounds the sane as the problem i had i few days ago, turned out to be just a fuse,
I've got glow fuses and none of them are glowing but may have blown the circuit hence the issue.. Which fuse was it as its a pain taking them out one at a time?
FFG

FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

268 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Turns out it was the ignition relay on the fuse board, The one that was in wasn't that old so put the spare Siemens one back in and hey presto, Anyone know where I can get a decent replacement - the good one is Siemens V23134-352 D242 (also has R8F2 stamped on it).
Thanks.
FFG

phillpot

17,435 posts

204 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Here's one in Germany

Is it anything "special" or just a relay with big terminals

Edited by phillpot on Sunday 3rd December 16:40