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well it is compared to my S..... took the S out today dispite being slower it felt a alot more stable on bumpy roads and in corners
Before you lot start on OHhhhhhhh you need Nitrons.... I'll tell you I don't. The car is only used on the road so It does not warranty the dosh..
So what should I get... prefer Gaz as I have them on S and understand them.... but open to other suggestions
Springs rates ???????..... part NOs for dampers ???????
Before you lot start on OHhhhhhhh you need Nitrons.... I'll tell you I don't. The car is only used on the road so It does not warranty the dosh..
So what should I get... prefer Gaz as I have them on S and understand them.... but open to other suggestions
Springs rates ???????..... part NOs for dampers ???????
Its Gaz or Nitrons for me.
Take your pick on the springs, start at 250lb rear and 275/300lb front and work your way up till your teeth rattle.
Gaz GP8-2285 on the back,Gaz GP8-2284 on the front.
Jools for Nitrons.
Special offers around on the new Gaz product for £460.00 inc VAT and delivery.
Take your pick on the springs, start at 250lb rear and 275/300lb front and work your way up till your teeth rattle.
Gaz GP8-2285 on the back,Gaz GP8-2284 on the front.
Jools for Nitrons.
Special offers around on the new Gaz product for £460.00 inc VAT and delivery.
I only use my car on the road, too, but I am considering Nitrons.
There is a definite flaw with the rear damping rates on standard cars - several period road tests mention it and it exhibits itself every now and then on my car, when I am pressing on.
Can Joospeed, or anyone who has Nitrons fitted, confirm whether they will cure this problem?
There is a definite flaw with the rear damping rates on standard cars - several period road tests mention it and it exhibits itself every now and then on my car, when I am pressing on.
Can Joospeed, or anyone who has Nitrons fitted, confirm whether they will cure this problem?
Theres not a flaw as such in the std damping .. but the std car has to cope with a variety of real world driving conditions and so has to be a compromise.
The vast majority of the time it's too stiff at the back .. at some point you'll want to put holiday luggage in the boot, fill the fuel tank, have driver and passenger and the spring/dmper combination has to be strong enough to cope with that.
.. of course that means that the rest of the time it's too stiff.
Any of the famous name adjustable dampers will get you some control over the stiffness of the system within limits set by the spring rates and the physical nature of the car itself.
I'm now moving away from nitrons as my damper of choice but if you want to go nitron route there's virtually nowhere you can't get them fitted these days. .. but don't forget all the other options ..
In another thread we established the importance of car set-up and in this respect a well set up *other damper* car will outperform a badly set up nitron'd car, particualrly on the open road.
If you get a good set of nitrons and have it professionally aligned, and then go no to fine tune it to your own tastes though you'll have a cracking piece of kit, so for the outright performance enthusiast they're still close to number one choice.
Sadly though all too often i see badly fitted and set up kits that are worse than the std car.
The vast majority of the time it's too stiff at the back .. at some point you'll want to put holiday luggage in the boot, fill the fuel tank, have driver and passenger and the spring/dmper combination has to be strong enough to cope with that.
.. of course that means that the rest of the time it's too stiff.
Any of the famous name adjustable dampers will get you some control over the stiffness of the system within limits set by the spring rates and the physical nature of the car itself.
I'm now moving away from nitrons as my damper of choice but if you want to go nitron route there's virtually nowhere you can't get them fitted these days. .. but don't forget all the other options ..
In another thread we established the importance of car set-up and in this respect a well set up *other damper* car will outperform a badly set up nitron'd car, particualrly on the open road.
If you get a good set of nitrons and have it professionally aligned, and then go no to fine tune it to your own tastes though you'll have a cracking piece of kit, so for the outright performance enthusiast they're still close to number one choice.
Sadly though all too often i see badly fitted and set up kits that are worse than the std car.
Jools...
I must confess, I haven't done enough mileage in the car yet to get a proper feel for what is happening, but under certain directional changes it feels as if the front end is perfectly tied down but the rear is a little unsettled - as if it is slightly underdamped for the strength of the springs.
Perhaps you are right; a little more weight in the boot might improve the sprung:unsprung weight ratio so that the damping works a little better, but in comparison to any mass produced (read highly developed) sports car, or any Lotus, there is very definitely something not quite right!
I, too, would be interested in what dampers you are now moving toward if you have found a better compromise than Nitrons.
I must confess, I haven't done enough mileage in the car yet to get a proper feel for what is happening, but under certain directional changes it feels as if the front end is perfectly tied down but the rear is a little unsettled - as if it is slightly underdamped for the strength of the springs.
Perhaps you are right; a little more weight in the boot might improve the sprung:unsprung weight ratio so that the damping works a little better, but in comparison to any mass produced (read highly developed) sports car, or any Lotus, there is very definitely something not quite right!
I, too, would be interested in what dampers you are now moving toward if you have found a better compromise than Nitrons.
my damper of choice at the moment is made for me and sold under the joospeed banner. it's alloy bodied but twin tube .. so in spec it's down from a nitron (which is a gas pressure monotube design) ..
but it's the only damper I've never had a problem with, and is the only damper I'm prepared to send out mail order.
but it's the only damper I've never had a problem with, and is the only damper I'm prepared to send out mail order.
Well I am gald to see it aint just me......
I was thinking my lack of experience/knowledge was playing tricks on me....
Hmmmm right new set of dampers n springs it is.
Mainly just me in the car.... hardly any luggage as its weekend blatting about toy.
Just need to find what best suited for me....
<how many months away is the Growl.... need to pick brains and few test runs I thinks.
I was thinking my lack of experience/knowledge was playing tricks on me....
Hmmmm right new set of dampers n springs it is.
Mainly just me in the car.... hardly any luggage as its weekend blatting about toy.
Just need to find what best suited for me....
<how many months away is the Growl.... need to pick brains and few test runs I thinks.
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