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i believe the seats are interchangeable - I've noted that Griff have them both ways round. In mine, the recliner handle is next to the tunnel to stop it fouling the harnesses. I'd imagine the biggest problem will be crudded bolts mostly.
let me know how it goes though, because I'm considering removing mine for cleaning.
let me know how it goes though, because I'm considering removing mine for cleaning.
I would buy replacement washers for underneath the car as they might be rotten and the ones inside the car will certainly be all squashed, if they are there at all.
From B&Q these are "Repair Washer: Zinc"
You will need 8 of 3/8" x 1.1/2" for inside the car and 8 of 3/16" x 1.1/4" for underneath - although I had to drill out the hole in these to 9mm for the bolt and you may want to consider putting the bigger washers underneath. You will need at least 1 of these smaller washers though - see the comment in the notes below about a washer with a chunk cut off.
I replaced my seats for Cerb ones earlier this year, the extracted notes below from that job may be some help to you. The whole process is documented on Ballistic Banana's website www.THEGRIFFITHPAGES.COM if you are interested.
Out with the old.
The original seats came out easily enough. There are just 4 nyloc nuts and washers under the car to undo and the seat lifts straight out. You will just need a 13mm socket. Be careful though, the headrests come all the way out so don’t pick up the seat with it.
Fitting the Cerbera seats isn't quite the 'plug and play’ job it’s made out to be though. There's a box section spacer attached to the Griffith seats which needs to be transferred onto the Cerb seats. It’s a simple job but mine were in need of de rusting and repainting which delayed things overnight. (PICTURE)
To attach them is a simple matter of bolting them to the seat frame. (PICTURE) Tighten these up gently though to allow some movement when the seat goes in the car. I wedged a spanner in the frame to keep the bolt head still while I tightened the nut with a 13mm spanner. (PICTURE)
Dropping the seats back in is simple enough, although I took the opportunity to put washers on the inside of the car so give the bolts a bit more support instead of sitting on carpet and fibreglass (PICTURE)
In with the new.
Before you start putting the seat into place you should be prepared for having to wash your hands about half a dozen times per seat throughout the operation to avoid getting underseal/waxoyl on the seats.
The operation is the same for both sides of the car. Except for one washer I found underneath on the drivers side (front, outside) which had a chunk cut out of it. I think the missing chunk allows the washer to avoid a curved bit of floor so I created a new version of this from a new washer.
Incidentally, the smaller new washers in the picture were drilled out using a 9mm bit to enlarge the hole for the bolt.
Sit the seat in position and slide the washers onto the rear bolts. Then locate the bolts into the holes in the floor and finger-tighten the washers and nuts on underneath now to stop them from pulling back out again. Now go back inside and to the front and attach the washers onto the spacer bolts there and wiggle the seat and spacer until you find the hole for the bolt.
Now you’re back under the car again to attach the washers and nuts onto the bolts and tighten all 4 nuts nice and tight. And finally, back into the car to pinch up the nuts and bolts holding the box section spacers.
>> Edited by barreti on Thursday 8th September 11:51
From B&Q these are "Repair Washer: Zinc"
You will need 8 of 3/8" x 1.1/2" for inside the car and 8 of 3/16" x 1.1/4" for underneath - although I had to drill out the hole in these to 9mm for the bolt and you may want to consider putting the bigger washers underneath. You will need at least 1 of these smaller washers though - see the comment in the notes below about a washer with a chunk cut off.
I replaced my seats for Cerb ones earlier this year, the extracted notes below from that job may be some help to you. The whole process is documented on Ballistic Banana's website www.THEGRIFFITHPAGES.COM if you are interested.
Out with the old.
The original seats came out easily enough. There are just 4 nyloc nuts and washers under the car to undo and the seat lifts straight out. You will just need a 13mm socket. Be careful though, the headrests come all the way out so don’t pick up the seat with it.
Fitting the Cerbera seats isn't quite the 'plug and play’ job it’s made out to be though. There's a box section spacer attached to the Griffith seats which needs to be transferred onto the Cerb seats. It’s a simple job but mine were in need of de rusting and repainting which delayed things overnight. (PICTURE)
To attach them is a simple matter of bolting them to the seat frame. (PICTURE) Tighten these up gently though to allow some movement when the seat goes in the car. I wedged a spanner in the frame to keep the bolt head still while I tightened the nut with a 13mm spanner. (PICTURE)
Dropping the seats back in is simple enough, although I took the opportunity to put washers on the inside of the car so give the bolts a bit more support instead of sitting on carpet and fibreglass (PICTURE)
In with the new.
Before you start putting the seat into place you should be prepared for having to wash your hands about half a dozen times per seat throughout the operation to avoid getting underseal/waxoyl on the seats.
The operation is the same for both sides of the car. Except for one washer I found underneath on the drivers side (front, outside) which had a chunk cut out of it. I think the missing chunk allows the washer to avoid a curved bit of floor so I created a new version of this from a new washer.
Incidentally, the smaller new washers in the picture were drilled out using a 9mm bit to enlarge the hole for the bolt.
Sit the seat in position and slide the washers onto the rear bolts. Then locate the bolts into the holes in the floor and finger-tighten the washers and nuts on underneath now to stop them from pulling back out again. Now go back inside and to the front and attach the washers onto the spacer bolts there and wiggle the seat and spacer until you find the hole for the bolt.
Now you’re back under the car again to attach the washers and nuts onto the bolts and tighten all 4 nuts nice and tight. And finally, back into the car to pinch up the nuts and bolts holding the box section spacers.
>> Edited by barreti on Thursday 8th September 11:51
barreti said:
Good stuff
When I removed my seats I couldn't get a socket on one of the driver seat front nuts, so I had to unbolt the box section from the seat with the seat in place, then remove the seat, then remove the box section by turning it while wedging the nyloc nut underneath with a screwdriver. As Barreti said, a straighforward enough operation, but be prepared for the odd puzzle.
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