Steel Rockers
Steel Rockers
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pete500

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151 posts

273 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Do any of you have any experiences with steel-rockers with hardened steel inserts (looking similar to the inserts in the original alu-rockers)? As 7 of 16 of these inserts were more or less destroyed on the original alu-rockers after 20.000 miles, I'm a bit conserned! pt

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I hadn't realised this until it was pointed out to me recently, but the general concensus among the RV8 tuners is steer clear of steel rockers as their extra mass increases stresses on the valve/cam system aparently. I guess when you have a rocking steel mass at 5k rpm it does become an issue.
Don't know the answer to getting better quality alloy rockers in there though .. V8Racing is the man to ask

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

289 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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The steel rockers I saw were volvo sourced and adjustable for solid lifters. If you're sticking with hydraulic lifters the you don't really need steel rockers. They were found on the Olds 215, maybe buick 300? You can get pukka stuff from buick engines and use them instead. Usual roller rocker aluminium sources are Kenne Bell (US) and Yella Terra (OZ) but you're not out of the woods as the valvetrain geometry may be wrong. Stock rv8 stuff is ok for most of us

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mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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I was wondering wheather some better rockers might be in order as well.I'm concerned long term about how secure the pads on the original rockers are,especially now mines modded a bit.I only recently read about someone on here having the pads break up and causing engine damage.I also thought the steel rockers were the way to go.

HarryW

16,027 posts

298 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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When I had the rebuild (V8D), steel were the way to go, whats changed .

Harry

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

289 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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HarryW said:
When I had the rebuild (V8D), steel were the way to go, whats changed .

Harry


Steel will be stronger and you may need the strength if you have a hard working valvetrain. Downside is you have extra weight which is the enemy so it's a case of setting your priorities according to needs.

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David H

809 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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I've gone for steel ones in my rebuild, due to Quinny scaring the pants off me with his experiences of the standard alloy ones.

pete500

Original Poster:

151 posts

273 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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David, steel ones with or without hardened inserts? If without, where did you det them? pt

David H

809 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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pete500 said:
David, steel ones with or without hardened inserts? If without, where did you det them? pt


This kit Pete:



Here is a close up of one of the rockers:




Mine are not identical, but are similar. I do not know if they are hardened or not, I was more worried about the valve contact pad coming off the standard alloy ones!



pete500

Original Poster:

151 posts

273 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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Seems like the business. The ones I got was steel WITH hardened contact pads - and I don't like that combination any more than alloy's with contact pads. pt

macdeb

8,757 posts

284 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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pete500 said:
Seems like the business. The ones I got was steel WITH hardened contact pads - and I don't like that combination any more than alloy's with contact pads. pt

I fitted steel rockers to my last Griff' with cam change. They didn't have inserts. Seems to miss the point really if they have them. Must say was concerned about added reciprocating mass, but did previously find three pads [from alloy rockers] had come off.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Friday 16th December 2005
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There are some scarier pictures in the bible BTW that came out of my Griff. They were replaced with steel rockers.
There are many different types of steel rockers ranging from a not much more than alloys to near enough £1000 a set
so it is worth getting a set that is suitable for what your needs are.

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Friday 16th December 2005
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Boosted Ls1 said:
The steel rockers I saw were volvo sourced and adjustable for solid lifters. If you're sticking with hydraulic lifters the you don't really need steel rockers. They were found on the Olds 215, maybe buick 300? You can get pukka stuff from buick engines and use them instead. Usual roller rocker aluminium sources are Kenne Bell (US) and Yella Terra (OZ) but you're not out of the woods as the valvetrain geometry may be wrong. Stock rv8 stuff is ok for most of us

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I have kenne bell roller rockers on mine but they are not made any more - so getting a set is impossible ..

Yella Terra are still available..

v8 racing

2,064 posts

280 months

Friday 16th December 2005
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like steve said there are very many different types of steel rockers out of interest harry the ones we fitted to your car are not much heavier than the ally ones and were very good, i saw on a customers car the other day that were recently fitted by......... and they were truely craaaaaaaaaap were the pushrods fit they werent even all the same depth to a massive margin ie 5 mm!! not though you just couldnt set the preload! i threw them away and put standard ones back on!!