newbie Q #2: how easy is it to sell a Griff post-summer?
newbie Q #2: how easy is it to sell a Griff post-summer?
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g-boy

Original Poster:

236 posts

246 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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thinking of buying a Griff for the summer months. how easy will it be to sell a Griff around September time when the rag tops uses become more limited?

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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You want to buy one for a few months, then sell it? Why?

g-boy

Original Poster:

236 posts

246 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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i just want a short and sweet TVR experience rather than a longer perhaps more expensive time. (eeek, i can feel the tuts coming!)

i alreay have one car and having two permanatly at my age would be pretty stupid and completely un-afordable.

just wondering if there are trends in Griffith prices?

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nicbowman

785 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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I stand to be contradicted. But, I think they reach rock bottom in February, wierd, but I watched them from August 2005 until now. Buy now, 1996 500's at £12k, that is a bargain!

Nic

purple helmut

73 posts

253 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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Sorry mate, I don't understand your logic here ?
You said you want a short TVR experience ?? ... Have you ever driven a Griff ?

Before parting with your cash, my advice would be to stop and think what your really looking for....
if its just a bit of 'fun' open top motoring for the summer there are plenty of convertibles out there of various makes that will do just that and probably be easier to sell. (I would not expect to sell any TVR in september quickly).

The TVR experience for me goes way beyond 'a summer sports car' and being a TVR owner is much more than just a 'driving experience' theres a great club (tvrcc) and a fantastic bunch of enthusiasts who organise some brilliant events (griff growl, track days etc) many on here always ready to give help and advice, I bought my first TVR last year (96 griff 500) personally I dont understand why anyone would want a 'short' TVR experience.

But thats just my opinion for what its worth.

g-boy

Original Poster:

236 posts

246 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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thats perfectly understood and i realised that enthusiasts would probably bite my head off.

i am only 24 and money is an issue. i couldn't just put say £10-12k down and then not feel it. BUT i am a big TVR fan and have been since i saw Tiff drive the Griff on top gear way back (only a little teenager then!).

what i would love is to own a Grif permanantly obviously (in this case i adore the Cerbs so i'd get the hard top for the cold and damp times), but the idea is to buy, pay the rather large premium as my expenditure for a couple of months, then sell it on (hopefully for a similar price) to an enthusiast who can afford to keep is running over the next winter.

there are plenty of roadsters out there yes, but none come close to the Griffith in many different ways!

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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Go for it, But be aware you may have to wait a few months to sell come september, If you go for an 4.0 or early 500 then over the 6 months ish you shouldnt loose much/if any in residuals.

BB

cln1

657 posts

254 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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Check the insurance situation before you go any futher.

Colin.

raw-sewedge

970 posts

288 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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You might be better off buying a Chim. You'll get a newer car with less miles for the money and hence less chance of problems that may backrupt you.

Either car will be slow to sell in September and worth less, prices are seasional for obvious reasons.

g-boy

Original Poster:

236 posts

246 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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cln1 said:
Check the insurance situation before you go any futher.

Colin.

already did that and because of the lowish value of the griff, coupled with a very low mileage i'll be fine. this is with 1yr NCB.

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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g-boy said:
i am only 24 and money is an issue. i couldn't just put say £10-12k down and then not feel it. BUT i am a big TVR fan and have been since i saw Tiff drive the Griff on top gear way back (only a little teenager then!).

Good man It has to be done...
g-boy said:
what i would love is to own a Grif permanantly obviously (in this case i adore the Cerbs so i'd get the hard top for the cold and damp times), but the idea is to buy, pay the rather large premium as my expenditure for a couple of months, then sell it on (hopefully for a similar price) to an enthusiast who can afford to keep is running over the next winter.

'Affording to keep it running over the winter' is a new concept to me! Sure, you won't be getting the top down or going for so many blats, but you don't have to sell it or lay it up. Just get a battery conditioner (I use a Calamander Airflow), keep it plugged into the cig socket, and take the car for a 20+ mile drive at least every fortnight to keep all the bits happy.

Do this: Do your research and find a good one that's been well looked after. Buy it. Drive it for the summer. Then see if you want to sell it in September. I'm thinking you won't...

NB Keeping it for the next season will also mean you don't have to fart about with 6-month tax disks and fighting over insurance refunds




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g-boy

Original Poster:

236 posts

246 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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man, I like your style! a bit of positivity for a change..ha ha only jessin' all the advice has been excellent.

aaaaaaargh. its such a difficult choice. the original plan was to simply buy, enjoy and sell the griff. I love its britishness and beauty.
then someone mentioned the tamora because of its affordability and easier to drive virtues. however, the tamora is still quite pricey for me and it would mean moving on from the practicalities of owning a TT which I don't think I can afford yet. (i can afford to buy one but running it and insurance would be pretty crippling unless I could get one for around 15k ???)
my personal fave is the cerb but to me a cerb is a year round car and I think in my situation it would also be impractical. plus as an entry into TVR'S it would be a mistake.

so although I would love to own one, as a main car, at my tender years I don't think it would make much sense.

so I think a pre-cat 4.0 or 4.3 griff bekons...

and you're probably right, it'll still be in the drive and forcing my mum's jazz onto the pavement for longer than I first planned

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Paul V

4,489 posts

306 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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You could of course start with a S series TVR as I did, they are cheap to fix if they go wrong, although mine had some money spent on it at service times (no where near as much as the Griff mind) it only ever let me down once in 18 months and about 20k miles, even then it was a cheap fix. Mine was much easier on the wallet than my Griff and I ran it as my everyday car for quite a while, actually considering going back to an S at some time in the future. If your going to but a Griff I’d buy a good condition one that’s just had a major service so the next one will be minor when you come to sell, as always don’t buy the first one you see. Not sure which model would be easiest to sell, the 500 has the appeal of the later car but the 4 and 4.3 are rarer, guess they might hang about longer as more likely to sell to a enthusiast.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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The S series are far more 'chuckable' than the later models and make an ideal introduction to rwd cars in general and TVRs in particular. Of course I have to recommend the V8S over the V6 versions, but the V8 does have significantly higher running costs, and more scope to get it wrong if you are new to powerful rwd sports cars.

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Yep, I think your shopping list, in order of price, is S3, V8S, Griff 4.0.

S3 - pretty car and still very much a TVR.
V8S - equally pretty but partly a Griffith underneath
Griff 4.0 - to quote my ex, after having a go and getting out grinning like a Cheshire Cat, 'It's a boy!'

NB All Griff 4.0 are 'precat'. That's why they (and V8S) sound so great. Don't fret over the fact it's not a 4.3/5.0 etc, I assure you 4.0 will be plenty enough to handle as a first TVR.

And as this is the Griffith forum, I can safely say that Tamorae are horrible S6 things with no character Part of the TVR experience IMHO is the V8

g-boy

Original Poster:

236 posts

246 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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so torn between a griff for a short time (as well as me TT) or buying a Tamora outright and selling my beloved coup.

the thing is with selling the TT now is, i know i can get a good price, probably more than i got it for. making the tamora just about affordable. its a toughie...

garfys s3

1,257 posts

253 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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why dont you join a classic car club you will have a choice of driving different cars for a relatively small outlay,gary

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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g-boy said:
so torn between a griff for a short time (as well as me TT) or buying a Tamora outright and selling my beloved coup.

I don't follow your logic. A Griff 4.0 is cheaper to buy, cheaper to insure (classic car policy), easier to service, doesn't have cats, has classic looks, and amazingly it comes with a roof which you can use when it's a bit chilly. Let me put that another way: a Tamora is more expensive to buy than a Griffith, more expensive to insure, more expensive to service, has cats, looks like a squashed frog and you can't get the roof off when it's sunny.

If that's not a no-brainer, I don't know what is

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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simpo two said:
g-boy said:
so torn between a griff for a short time (as well as me TT) or buying a Tamora outright and selling my beloved coup.

I don't follow your logic. A Griff 4.0 is cheaper to buy, cheaper to insure (classic car policy), easier to service, doesn't have cats, has classic looks, and amazingly it comes with a roof which you can use when it's a bit chilly. Let me put that another way: a Tamora is more expensive to buy than a Griffith, more expensive to insure, more expensive to service, has cats, looks like a squashed frog and you can't get the roof off when it's sunny.

If that's not a no-brainer, I don't know what is


here here....Just cos the Griff has a roof that comes off doesn't mean it feels a flimsy ragtop in the winter. The targa roof section actually does a good job of insulating the cabin from both noise and cold.. I run mine all year round as a motorway cruiser as well as honing around at weekends.
Best decision i ever made selling my Audi S6 for a TVR

bjwoods

5,018 posts

313 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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simpo two said:
g-boy said:
so torn between a griff for a short time (as well as me TT) or buying a Tamora outright and selling my beloved coup.

I don't follow your logic. A Griff 4.0 is cheaper to buy, cheaper to insure (classic car policy), easier to service, doesn't have cats, has classic looks, and amazingly it comes with a roof which you can use when it's a bit chilly. Let me put that another way: a Tamora is more expensive to buy than a Griffith, more expensive to insure, more expensive to service, has cats, looks like a squashed frog and you can't get the roof off when it's sunny.

If that's not a no-brainer, I don't know what is


last time i saw one, a tamora is most definetly a convertible ????