Non ps serp photo please.
Non ps serp photo please.
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v8sag

Original Poster:

827 posts

239 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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Could someone please post a pic(without ac) or give me a part number of the pulley for a non power steer serp please,I would like to see how the car compares without power steer,(have a non ps rack to try)

v8sag

Original Poster:

827 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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anyone?

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Which pulley?I thought,from memory,that my last Griff,which was serp without PAS didn't have a pulley where the PAS pump is?Is this what your refering to?
I could still be wrong though

v8sag

Original Poster:

827 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Thanks mate
Maybe I should take a better look tommorrow,but I thought it would need a pulley on the near side(where the pump was)to keep the belt running off the crank pulley

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Serp engine with PAS/non PAS has the same belt and the same pulley, if you need an idle wheel mounting i could check to see if i still have my old one (resently fitted PAS to mine)

>> Edited by bluebottle on Thursday 25th May 08:28

v8sag

Original Poster:

827 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Thanks bluebottle
I thought the idler/pulley was intergarated in the pump housing,I really wanted to keep the units intac to use on the other cars,but will check tommorow.

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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the pulley has 3 bolt connection to the pump/idle spindle which turn has 4 bolt fix to the universal mounting bracket

when we installed the PAS i got a 2nd hand pump off fleebay, which came with the pulley and mount so i just removed the nnon PAS assy. complete

>> Edited by bluebottle on Thursday 25th May 10:02

v8sag

Original Poster:

827 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Ta,will try that for now,but still wouldn't mind getting my hands on the idler and mount.
How do you find it on the road now compared to non pas?i'm not worried about the parking malarky.

>> Edited by v8sag on Thursday 25th May 10:30

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Hi Paul.

I have asked the garage to see if the old assy. Is still in their parts bin, if it is then I could get it shipped out to you (cost of postage is all I would want for it).

As for the difference in the driveability there are pro’s and cons to both setups;

The non pas on my first Griff was very heavy (which ultimately lead to an early grave for the car due to the steering column shearing during a high speed lockup during breaking &#61516 but was smooth and stable at 145mph. My current Griff had a much lighter steering but was very twitchy and nervous at high speeds although on the track it felt really “alive” with plenty of feed back but. For me at least, I found the steering too heavy and not quick enough to catch it when the car twitched and wanted to face the other way…Now with the PAS it has far better manners, the damping effect of the hydraulic flood makes it very smooth and stable at high speeds although it has numbed the feedback so you don’t feel quick so much at one with the car, although the feedback is much better then your average Eurobox pas.
The big plus is that I am now able to easily catch the twitch and don’t come out of corners looking at the hysterical face of the guy behind me, it has given me far more confidence to attack the corners as I am now able to hold the car in the groove – my reaction times on the non pas were just not quick enough to catch in time.
As I said above there are pro’s and con’s but for me I found that steering response of the pas out ways the numbing of the feedback.

Bluebottle

purple helmut

73 posts

253 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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I would like to convert mine to PAS, what parts do I need, where's the best place to get them and how much does it cost ?

would be happy to receive advice from somone who's done it successfully

cheers

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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Hi purple Helmut

Two schools of thought on this one;
1, use an electric pump of a Peuguot 106 or similar grocery getter, or
2, TVR belt driven pump (which is a std range rover[stand to be corrected on that]) which is the same unit in Chimps and Griffs as is the rack.

In both cases, you will need a genuine TVR PAS rack (its not a donor item and the co. that used to make them for tvr went bust).

PAS racks are becoming as rare as rocking horse sh1t so that will be your primary item to search for.

Bell Hill and the other Scrappy that i forget the name of for the moment sell recycled complet kits and both sell the kits with reconditioned racks - when i was looking, both were charging £750 for the kit, but you may have to wait a long time as they are struggling to find racks to make up their kits.

In my case i was lucky and found a rack in the classifieds, so all i had to do was wait for a pump and reservior to come up on fleebay the pipes and other bits are readily available from tvrcarparts.com including the shortened steering column and lower uj that you will need (if you buy a kit make sure thes two items are included as the non pas lower steering colunm and uj will no fit).