Tyres again - Urgent!!!!
Tyres again - Urgent!!!!
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reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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I know this has been done to death but, apart from Toyo, there is no other manufacturer that currently makes a tyre for the rear of the griffith on std rims! All the usual (Bridgestone, Goodyear Dunlop, Pirelli, Michelin, Yokos, Conti etc) do not currently make any tyre to fit! Any tyres that can be got hold of are no longer made, hense you will not be able to replace them like for like! Any advise welcomed as I need fronts and rears!

Cheers,

Reeso

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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I take it the size on your LE is 245/45/16. Front and rear or 15"s at the front, I can't remember what number LE it is.

According the www.blackcircles.com Continental and a number of, interesting shall we say, brands make tyres in this size ready to order for delivery.

My own Griff is sitting on the Toyo's


Puff

Edited by puffsorted2 on Tuesday 4th July 09:48

boll-x

296 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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If your desprate for a couple of rear tyres i,ve got a pair of bridgestones with maybe a few thousand miles on them just to see you through until you get a decent set........?

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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T1R's (245/45ZR16, w rated) on the back of ours with Dunlop SP9000 front (205/55ZR15).
The combo works well and tread pattern very similar. Will be trying the SP9000 on the rear on the next change.
Personally wouldn't touch the Bridgestones with a bargepole - rubbish in comparison.
Maybe affected if the roof is off though although not really an issue for you.
FFG

reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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My fronts are 225/45/16 and rears are 245/45/16. Dunlop SP9000 are not made in either size and I don't want to go for a really naff make. I think it is going to have to be Toyo T1-R's front and rear. Their newest design/compound etc, but I'm just not sure!

Puff, how do u find the toyos compared to what you had on the chim?

Flip, roof off is becoming more common....as long as its hot!

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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reeso said:
My fronts are 225/45/16 and rears are 245/45/16. Dunlop SP9000 are not made in either size and I don't want to go for a really naff make. I think it is going to have to be Toyo T1-R's front and rear. Their newest design/compound etc, but I'm just not sure!

Puff, how do u find the toyos compared to what you had on the chim?

Flip, roof off is becoming more common....as long as its hot!


The Chim was fitted with Bridgestone Eagle F1's 235/45/17's and 215/40/17's while the Griff is 245/45/16's and 225/45/15's Toyo's. The most noticable thing is how much more comfortable the ride is in the Griff, the 17" wheels on the Chim really made the ride hard, though some of that may be also be down to the firmness of the Bridgestones. I have a feeling the Toyo's are gripper, but that may be because of the increase in tyre footprint, as the Griff feels more confidence inspiring to drive quickly, but maybe with a little more roll, again hard to say of thats down to the tyre make or the difference in size. Its much more easy to spin the rear wheels by accident in the Griff but thats probably down to the extra power
The Bridgestone's have a very nice tread pattern, looks great in photos.

Puff

Edited by puffsorted2 on Tuesday 4th July 10:37

reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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I know that falcon are normally sh1t, but has anybody heard of the FK451's. Apparently they are developed on a race series from Japan! Any thoughts?

ads

1,369 posts

286 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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reeso said:
I know that falcon are normally sh1t, but has anybody heard of the FK451's. Apparently they are developed on a race series from Japan! Any thoughts?


Yep use them on my everyday car, fantastic tyre. Grip very well in wet or dry. For the price I've got no complaints, although I've never tried them on a Tiv. The Cerb boys seem to like them though.

dingg

4,537 posts

248 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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can confirm they're an excellent tyre - had them on a bmw I previously owned and couldn't fault them

97octane

2,203 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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reeso said:
My fronts are 225/45/16 and rears are 245/45/16. Dunlop SP9000 are not made in either size and I don't want to go for a really naff make. I think it is going to have to be Toyo T1-R's front and rear. Their newest design/compound etc, but I'm just not sure!

Puff, how do u find the toyos compared to what you had on the chim?

Flip, roof off is becoming more common....as long as its hot!

Quick, go get the roof on, it's just started raining here!
Reeso, I would be interested to know where you get the best deal on the Toyo's. No57 is still wearing SO2's at front & SO3's at rear - the rears are ok but fronts only got a limited life left

Seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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No problem with T1r's on my rear (ooer missus) Will probably be on the front soon, as my insurance company are ok with the lower rating.

Possibly SP9000 if i decide i'm not happy with the one lower speed rating..

reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Seasider, if you have the same size rear as I, then the SP9000 are not made in that size!

Seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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reeso said:
Seasider, if you have the same size rear as I, then the SP9000 are not made in that size!


again

seasider said:
No problem with T1r's on my rear (ooer missus) Will probably be on the front soon, as my insurance company are ok with the lower rating.

Possibly SP9000 if i decide i'm not happy with the one lower speed rating..


FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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I've e-mailed Dunlop. Already doen Goodyear and Toyo but no joy in making both sizes - I guess too low volume so not interested. Maybe I should buy a Porsche!
FFG

reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Flip, I have spent most of the day phoning all the manufacturers tech depts. Goodyear/Dunlop, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Toyo, Falken, Continental etc. The only ones that do a front & rear to match tread, compound, sidewalls etc are Toyo T1-R's and Falken 451's. The other companies make a front, but not a rear and I don't want to mix and match! Very unpopular size!

reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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The decision has been made, courtesy of 2 independent recommendations and out of the choise I have.....Toyo T1-r's all round.

97Octane....£73 each for the fronts and £100 each for the rear. Total £346...of which Bridgestone will credit £100, making total payable £246, fitted, the lot! Nice.

virgil

1,557 posts

253 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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reeso said:
The decision has been made, courtesy of 2 independent recommendations and out of the choise I have.....Toyo T1-r's all round.

97Octane....£73 each for the fronts and £100 each for the rear. Total £346...of which Bridgestone will credit £100, making total payable £246, fitted, the lot! Nice.


Of interest, how are you getting Bridgestone to pay toward your Toyo tyres??? I'd like some freebies please!!!

reeso

Original Poster:

1,199 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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A defective tyre and as they can't replace, job done.

mackempete

965 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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97octane said:

I would be interested to know where you get the best deal on the Toyo's.

I just bought a full set from mytyres for £250 delivered. Great service too ordered on the wednesday had them on the friday.

97octane

2,203 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Thanks chaps! hope those Toyos stay in production or we'll all be off to Silverstone for a new set of 17/18 alloys - ouch!