ALMOST LOST IT
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jonny tvr

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4,551 posts

310 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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This morning in my griff 500 I was on a straight wide country road doing 60-70 and in fifth gear with my foot flat on the floor accelerating with moist road conditions and a 1 mile mile straight ahead and no other cars. The back end suddenly gave way and had to correct it quickly but just caught it with no drama and no over correction. But bloody scary at that speed.... in fifth gear!

pupp

12,951 posts

301 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Easily done... mine spun up on Monday, after touching the white line whilst accelerating hard in fourth going for an overtake on a damp road. Won't repeat what I said... hehe

Paul V

4,489 posts

306 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Too higher gear so as soon as the wheels broke traction they spun up much quicker? just my guess but if say you had been in 4th you wouldn't have needed as much throttle to go as quick. Although did have mine sideways at 60 when floored it in a tunnel with the revs high in the range, gets the blood pumping

seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Paul V said:
gets the blood pumping
Don't think it would be blood pumping i'd be worried about

purple helmut

73 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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There are plenty of these stories that have ended in tears.

Remember a standard 500 produces peak torque at around 3500rpm, so watch out in damp conditions, even in 5th gear, remember there's no traction control or ESP to sort you out.

You were lucky this time. driving

If your reading this thread and you havn't had a sideways experience YET, and you havn't had any training, suggest talking to the lads at ridedrive.

Remember ......
1. we don't want anyone getting hurt in their TVR
2. we don't want any more 'lovely' Griffs going to the scrap yard.

I'm not saying...don't have fun in your TVR, just have safe fun.

simpo two

92,730 posts

294 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Been there too!
0.1 second: Foot off gas
0.2 second: Steer as appropriate!

kenny chim 4

1,604 posts

287 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I feel that you were too far up the gear range for the speed and conditions you describe.
To me 5th gear in a TVR is overdrive and will not power control under these circumstances. Good for motorways, A roads etc.
jonny tvr said:
60-70 and in fifth gear with my foot flat on the floor accelerating .... in fifth gear!


I would've been in 3rd-possibly 4th under those conditions (presuming the oil is at a good temp).
As Steve Heath once said, what's so wrong with dropping a gear. That way you can make a lot more use of that big amount of torque these V8 engined TVRs offer- and be possibly more in control of those rear wheels

simpo two

92,730 posts

294 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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I'm not convinced Kenny - if you drop a gear you'll have more torque at the wheels and be more likely to lose traction - which is why in slippery conditions you normally change up sooner.

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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simpo two said:
I'm not convinced Kenny - if you drop a gear you'll have more torque at the wheels and be more likely to lose traction - which is why in slippery conditions you normally change up sooner.


Exactly. The gear selected wasn't the problem here - the foot flat on the floor was.

apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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Tyre temps seemed to be a major factor in my old girl along with pressures. The car is pretty light and when it comes on cam it becomes very important very quickly that everything is in fine fettle for good traction.

Tegriffic

1,600 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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seasider said:
Paul V said:
gets the blood pumping
Don't think it would be blood pumping i'd be worried about


Sort of thing you might induce by insisting on taking on bikers, if you're that way inclined.

seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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Tegriffic said:
seasider said:
Paul V said:
gets the blood pumping
Don't think it would be blood pumping i'd be worried about




Sort of thing you might induce by insisting on taking on bikers, if you're that way inclined.


oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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seasider said:
Tegriffic said:
seasider said:
Paul V said:
gets the blood pumping
Don't think it would be blood pumping i'd be worried about




Sort of thing you might induce by insisting on taking on bikers, if you're that way inclined.




seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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oggs said:
seasider said:
Tegriffic said:
seasider said:
Paul V said:
gets the blood pumping
Don't think it would be blood pumping i'd be worried about




Sort of thing you might induce by insisting on taking on bikers, if you're that way inclined.




I think Shawn is comenting on an incident that didn't happen on a private road when he was following me

Morning Oggler, you called Gayme yet hehe


Edited by seasider on Friday 1st September 08:45

oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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seasider said:

Morning Oggler, you called Gayme yet hehe



Morning DELDELDEL Nah.. he needs beauty sleep thats why he's still in bed at midday... dont work tho rofl

seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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oggs said:
seasider said:

Morning Oggler, you called Gayme yet hehe



Morning DELDELDEL Nah.. he needs beauty sleep thats why he's still in bed at midday... dont work tho rofl
i did 7 a.m. hehe

oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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rofl bet he loves you

Superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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simpo two said:
Been there too!
0.1 second: Foot off gas
0.2 second: Steer as appropriate!


Foot off gas?

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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Superkartracer said:
simpo two said:
Been there too!
0.1 second: Foot off gas
0.2 second: Steer as appropriate!


Foot off gas?


my thoughts exactly...that was my first ever mistake in a griff, taking foot smartly off throttle at 4k plus rpm induced an instant loss of traction at the rear (engine torque on these is greater than the tyre grip)

raw-sewedge

970 posts

288 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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jonny tvr said:
foot flat on the floor accelerating with moist road conditions


yikes brave man in any gear