No Griffith on Wikipedia!

[simpo two]

Is the Griffith suddenly non-PC, or would anyone care to put this deformed history of TVR right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_%28c

Currently we seem to have the highly selective 'corporate' edition of which 25% is taken up with post-Wheeler nonsense and the Griffith mustn't be mentioned becuase it has a V8 engine and those are of course very bad...

Edited by simpo two on Thursday 14th December 11:12

[victormeldrew]

wikipedia said:

Owner Peter Wheeler subsequently directed the design of a straight-six derivative of the AJP8 that would be cheaper to produce and maintain than the eight.

Well that sure worked out.

Griff seems to get as much of a mention as any other model, and since it wasn't a big seller anyway, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

picks up coat as he leaves rapidly ...

[Podie]

Stuff on Wiki here about the Griff - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Grif

[simpo two]

Podie said:

Stuff on Wiki here about the Griff - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Grif

Ah yes, foudn the link eventually!

FWIW, my 4p:

The Griffith and Chimaera - the 'Curvies' - were instrumental not only in making TVR truly profitable, but in bringing the image of the company from a quirky 'they make kit-cars don't they?' image into a genuine and respected maker.

So I find it insidious that the only mention of both is 'The new engine was originally destined for the Griffith and Chimaera models, but development took longer than expected and it finally became available in the Cerbera and Tuscan race cars.'

The article is obsessed with engines, but that's because it was written by a vested interest (TVRs PR department) who at the time was trying to flog S6s. I don't think the global history of TVR should be reprsented by what is in effect a shallow PR piece. TVR have always had a history of destroying whatever heritage they manage briefly to accumulate. Hence the Curvies need to be mentioned properly and give the credit they deserve, as the most important models the company ever produced.

[anonymous-user]

While you're right about no picture on the main TVR page, and that that should be corrected, there is a slowly growing page here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Grif

didn't mind been beaten to the punch once, but twice is too much

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 14th December 11:44

[richb]

victormeldrew said:

Griff seems to get as much of a mention as any other model, and since it wasn't a big seller anyway, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Maybe, maybe not but one things for sure it was probably the single most important model in the history of TVR. It gained all the accolades when it was launched in 1990 and without it there would have been no Chimaera or Cerbera...

[victormeldrew]

richb said:

victormeldrew said:

Griff seems to get as much of a mention as any other model, and since it wasn't a big seller anyway, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Maybe, maybe not but one things for sure it was probably the single most important model in the history of TVR. It gained all the accolades when it was launched in 1990 and without it there would have been no Chimaera or Cerbera...

Zzzzzzz - thats the sound of a big one reeling in!

Seriously though, I guess everyone has their own opinions, but for me the single most important model for TVR predated the Griff; if PW hadn't gone back to classic sports car looks with the S the Griff wouldn't have seen the light of day either.

[simpo two]

victormeldrew said:

for me the single most important model for TVR predated the Griff; if PW hadn't gone back to classic sports car looks with the S the Griff wouldn't have seen the light of day either.

True, the 'S' was an important step in the rise of TVR.

If you plot TVRs fortunes on a graph, then the point at which they abandon the V8 is probably where it starts to level off and then head relentlessly down with a combination of too-high prices, glass engines and ridiculous PR. At the end of the day, the market voted with its feet. Pity but there you go. And I have no doubt that PW saw it coming and bailed. Long live the Griff

[richb]

Indeed, I will give it to you, the S series was very significant... I've owned both