Spaghetti on top of the battery
Spaghetti on top of the battery
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Phil C

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433 posts

304 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Sorry - not a description of the contents of an (un)fortunate passenger's revisited lunch -but a question from a new owner of a 4.0 pre-cat.

Having had the joy of a flat battery and resulting alarm / immobiliser confusion I was forced to disconnect and recharge the battery in situ. Found to my 'amusement' there are a load of cables and relays and various other electrical spaghetti sort of lying around on top of the battery - has anyone done a DIY tidy up job on this (and also is this usual?) and if so, any advice. I'm afraid electrics are bit of black magic as far as I'm concerned - and I don't want to inadvertantly bugger anything up.

Thanks

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Yes, it's usual. And yes I did a DIY job on it that removed it all when I fitted an after market ECU...

Before that, I tidied the mess up as best I could, but it was never very tidy. Be careful whatever you do as some of the wire colours and routing is a little obscure at best. Remember that it is a range rover loom shoehorned into a sports car!

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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I think removing the ecu mounting bracket (by drilling the studs out) makes it sit down the side of the battery a little easier. The other ecu trailing bits can be covered in bags ~ mine are in rubber inspection gloves~ just to keep them a bit tidier.

Wait until you see the excess 2m of loom wound in to the inner wing hehe

In fairness, if there was'nt the extra loom you wouldnt be able to get the fusebox out ~ or the ecu & components. If you had to work on the things in the depths of the footwell there would be a lot of unhappy leccy bunneys

Dave

Griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Just tidy it up with insulation tape as best you can, but don't cover the two silver relays - they don't like to overheat.

Phil C

Original Poster:

433 posts

304 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Thanks guys. It's good to hear there's nothing unusual there. Sounds like a common sense tidy up is all that's needed. Thanks also for the pointers on the relays......

sprevett

534 posts

247 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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phil, another good idea, IMHO, is to move the battery to the boot - a conversion that TVR themselves offered, and it can be done quite neatly using a smaller, sealed battery. I plan to do this on mine cos the spaghetti is just a disaster waiting to happen innit.

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

284 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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sprevett said:
phil, another good idea, IMHO, is to move the battery to the boot - a conversion that TVR themselves offered......
Thats a revelation Steve,i've never heard that before,do you know any more details about exactly where they situated it,type of mounting,battery box etc?

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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The AJP Griff said:
sprevett said:
phil, another good idea, IMHO, is to move the battery to the boot - a conversion that TVR themselves offered......
Thats a revelation Steve,i've never heard that before,do you know any more details about exactly where they situated it,type of mounting,battery box etc?



Mike some info Sprevett sent me that owner Per Terje Laenn had done the conversion

CLICKY

BB

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

284 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Ballistic Banana said:

Mike some info Sprevett sent me that owner Per Terje Laenn had done the conversion

CLICKY

BB

Cheers BB,did Per copy what TVR offered do you know?

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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No Worries Mike, Best speak to Steve about that as he was in contact with Per. I dont think so though.

BB

tvr_nut

390 posts

303 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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spend said:
I think removing the ecu mounting bracket (by drilling the studs out) makes it sit down the side of the battery a little easier. The other ecu trailing bits can be covered in bags ~ mine are in rubber inspection gloves~ just to keep them a bit tidier.

Wait until you see the excess 2m of loom wound in to the inner wing hehe

In fairness, if there was'nt the extra loom you wouldnt be able to get the fusebox out ~ or the ecu & components. If you had to work on the things in the depths of the footwell there would be a lot of unhappy leccy bunneys

Dave


Yea, I'll vouch for that!!

Interesting that you can get the ECU down the SIDE of the battery. I have only managed to get my ECU to sit atop the battery (separated from all those battery amps by the nice flap of battery-box carpet), but it worries me that when nervous passengers are bracing feet against the footwell end, they are pushing the ECU into the fusebox.

I use the releasable type of cable ties to tidy the wires down there - can be released to free up slack to get the ECU etc out of the way when removing the battery box etc. (it always worries me attcking conventional cable ties with wire cutters in such close proximity to the loom).

Dave - do you know of a supplier of this type of cable tie, i.e. where you can release the locking mechanism with a fingernail, as I have nearly run out of scronged stock, and not seen them anywhere?

Neil.

farrowby

96 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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About the cheapest I have found are these people ...

www.thesitebox.com/trade-diy-tools/Release_and_use_again_200mm_x_4_8mm_black.html

I guess Screwfix or RS may well do them also.

Tim

BIIOAB

983 posts

290 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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scratchchinI take it the roof panel cannot go into the boot if you do this then?

David H

809 posts

270 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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BIIOAB said:
scratchchinI take it the roof panel cannot go into the boot if you do this then?

Yes

Phil C

Original Poster:

433 posts

304 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Back to square one. I was getting quite interested with the idea of moving the battery to the boot and away from all the other electronic 'gubbins'..... Looks like I'm back to the surgical glove and gaffa tape route....oh err... missus..... (sorry)

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Per showed me at the Growl last year that the roof panel does fit in the boot (just!) when the battery is in there.

David H

809 posts

270 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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When I said yes, I ment that the roof panel does fit in to the boot still.