V8 Enhancements Bonnet Stay for Griff
V8 Enhancements Bonnet Stay for Griff
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Pasco

Original Poster:

6,652 posts

258 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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I would just like to say congratulations to Fordy for putting into production a proper alternative to the original and horrendous factory bonnet stay thumbup

At last i will be able to lift my cars bonnet with new shiny stainless supporting it without it drooping to one side or the other and to achieve this and still supporting from the off side is spot on yes and new rollers also cool

You have my vote this time Clive bow





Even if he is an Ugly git yes

LordGrover

34,173 posts

242 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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Linky - click on Products then Griffith Bonnet Stay Kit. HTH

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Monday 15th October 2007
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glad you like it Paul, the new crossmember really stiffens things up under the bonnet, and the new rollers do away with a lot of the bonnet bouncing up and down at speed.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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clive f said:
..really stiffens things up under the bonnet,..
[stirring]You accusing asco of being woolly headed or a d1ck head?[/stirring]

Pasco

Original Poster:

6,652 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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spend said:
clive f said:
..really stiffens things up under the bonnet,..
[stirring]You accusing asco of being woolly headed or a d1ck head?[/stirring]
confused

Never mind i don't want to know.

Nice product Clive thumbup keep up the good work and i look forward to seeing new ideas and Shiny products for our cars in the future.

OscarT

758 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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It's a bit expensive though!

Pasco

Original Poster:

6,652 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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OscarT said:
It's a bit expensive though!
At first sight i agree but knowing Fordy it must have took some time to make up the parts etc.
Stainless and indeed all steel products have risen tremendously over the last two years yes

I will have one as i have been waiting for a solution that i like namely something that supports the bonnet properly and not dipping down on one side also uses the existing offside catch and in polished stainless to give me my Bling Fix and not forgetting being rid of the crap factory fitted one.






trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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OscarT said:
It's a bit expensive though!
Don't buy one then hehe , there'll be plenty of people who will and rightly so.

Have you ever tried to develop even a simple product? have you factored in your development time, your buying of required parts, your machining time, your advertising and warranty and still make a profit? If you have I'm surprised at your response, if you haven't then maybe think about what might be involved in bringing an idea to production reality before posting silly comments?

Nice one Clive smile hope they sell like hot cakes for you, nice to see people putting something back into the TVR community smile

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Well done Fordy biggrin

I couldn't agree more with Trackcar either. Having modified my original bonnet stay I can vouch for the enormous amount of time it takes to come up with a design which actually works when you test it. Let alone finding the parts to produce such a neat version as this.

The cost is relative really. It's not a 'must do' item is it. So if you want to replace it with something smarter, functional and shiny how much do you want it?

Keep up the good work Clive thumbup

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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thumbup thanks for your comments guys, except OscarT`shehe


OscarT

758 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Sorry if my opinion offends but it is a bit pricey for a direct replacement part IMO. Surely it doesn't do anything different from the original - it supports the bonnet at the middle front and is latched on the nearside inner wing - Okay it's shiny and kinky - I must be missing something here.

Why not take it onto the Dragon's Den? Maybe rename the company SPADE - Solutions for Problems that Actually Don't Exist.

Edited by OscarT on Tuesday 16th October 17:19


Edited by OscarT on Tuesday 16th October 17:22

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Hmmm scratchchin I take it I cant interest you in one then?

OscarT

758 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Thanks for the offer Clive but my original still works perfectly just like the rest of my Griffith.

OscarT

PS Isn't there an appreciable weight increase when compared with the original one? You'll have to fit a Magna Parva insulator just to correct the power/weight ratio. :-)

Pasco

Original Poster:

6,652 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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OscarT said:
Sorry if my opinion offends but it is a bit pricey for a direct replacement part IMO. Surely it doesn't do anything different from the original - it supports the bonnet at the middle front and is latched on the nearside inner wing - Okay it's shiny and kinky - I must be missing something here.

Why not take it onto the Dragon's Den? Maybe rename the company SPADE - Solutions for Problems that Actually Don't Exist.

Edited by OscarT on Tuesday 16th October 17:19


Edited by OscarT on Tuesday 16th October 17:22
This comment smacks of someone who would love to have one but his misses would not let him purchase it yes

I am sure if you asked Clive nicely he could offer you some sort of hire purchase agreement hehe

Anyhow Oscar it will soon be time for you to do your Phoenix routine rolleyes what will your next handle be ? Foxtrot Oscar sounds like a good idea yes





spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Pasco said:
This comment smacks of someone who would love to have one but his misses would not let him purchase it yes
Pot Kettle Black :roflmao: wink

or are you offering Jigs lessons in the ancient and honourable art of male/female subterfuge? biggrin

Dave

Pasco

Original Poster:

6,652 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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spend said:
Pasco said:
This comment smacks of someone who would love to have one but his misses would not let him purchase it yes
Pot Kettle Black :roflmao: wink

or are you offering Jigs lessons in the ancient and honourable art of male/female subterfuge? biggrin

Dave
Sorry to upset you Dave but i have placed my order with Mrs Pasco's Full blessing cloud9

wedgienauld

130 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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"Don't buy one then , there'll be plenty of people who will and rightly so.

Have you ever tried to develop even a simple product? have you factored in your development time, your buying of required parts, your machining time, your advertising and warranty and still make a profit? If you have I'm surprised at your response, if you haven't then maybe think about what might be involved in bringing an idea to production reality before posting silly comments?"


trackcar, my friend: OscaT is entitled to he's opinion just the same as you and your friends, are - I must say that you come across as rather pompous here. I happen to agree with OscaT - the item appeared the other day on here and my first thoughts were - what a nice item, appears well engineered, etc - but not inexpensive.

Are you surprised at my response, or is my opinion silly also...

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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wedgienauld said:
"Don't buy one then , there'll be plenty of people who will and rightly so.

Have you ever tried to develop even a simple product? have you factored in your development time, your buying of required parts, your machining time, your advertising and warranty and still make a profit? If you have I'm surprised at your response, if you haven't then maybe think about what might be involved in bringing an idea to production reality before posting silly comments?"


trackcar, my friend: OscaT is entitled to he's opinion just the same as you and your friends, are - I must say that you come across as rather pompous here. I happen to agree with OscaT - the item appeared the other day on here and my first thoughts were - what a nice item, appears well engineered, etc - but not inexpensive.

Are you surprised at my response, or is my opinion silly also...
I'd be surprised if you were involved in development/marketting .. if you're not involved in those disciplines then your comment can be explained by your naievity on the subjects. It's not being pompous, its just the difference of being on both sides of the fence .. you might not consider it good value for money, but it's a very fair (read cheap) price considering the time and efort spent in getting products to a saleable proposition.

HTH hehe

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Pasco said:
Sorry to upset you Dave but i have placed my order with Mrs Pasco's Full blessing cloud9
Boys 1 - Girls 0 party

Dave

OscarT

758 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Maybe I didn't fully explain my view that this product is over-engineered and thus too expensive for what is just a direct replacement. As with the original it supports the bonnet at the same points but weighs I suspect at least twice the weight of the original.

As with most of the innovative 90s Griffith design the original provision for accessing under the bonnet is inspired in my humble engineering opinion because to enable quick checking of fluids, etc. a light and effective bonnet support has been provided BUT should one wish to carry out more time consuming work under the bonnet a quick release mechanism is incorporated which allows the bonnet to be removed in under a minute.

The bonnet support is NOT intended to hold the bonnet up for long periods - if you need access for that length of time take the bonnet off. This is why some owners have problems with the bonnet support.

Porsche and Ferrari will charge their customers a fortune for lightening their original lardy products - GT3RS and 360 CS, etc. The TVR griffith was designed from the outset to be lightweight - around 1050Kg - so why should after market products seek to over complicate and add weight, particularly when not improving on the original in its function.

This is why I think that this product is unnecessarily expensive. Leave the shiny heavy trinkets without purpose for the girls and rap artists.

After market items should keep the spirit of the original award-winning design IMO.

OscarT