Misfire, Please help!
Misfire, Please help!
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GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Is it a single cylinder misfire? If so, I'd start by checking for problems on the fuel and ignition components specific to that cylinder.

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Check the header temperatures to see whether there are any cylinder obviously not working. If that doesn't show it, pull the plugs and see what they tell you.

Fat Griff

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176 posts

266 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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What do you mean by header temperature? All the plugs are dry and but very sooty.

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Exhaust header i.e. the part of the exhaust pipes nearest to the engine.

AntonyJ

5,254 posts

311 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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I think one way of doing what Pete is suggesting is to put a few drips of water onto each header to see which one isnt firing.

Pete?

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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The one that is misfiring will be cooler (easy with an infrared thermometer - well worth £30 they can picked up for - a most useful tool wink ). Then simply check the ignition & injector on that cylinder.

With no thermometer, plastic cable ties, spit, burnt fingers will have to be used to judge.. Easy if there is no combustion at all, not so easy for an intermittent bang IMHO.

Dave

Fat Griff

Original Poster:

176 posts

266 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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I'll try and get hold of a Infrared Thermometer tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice, any other suggestions would be greatfully accepted!

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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I have known the wires on the Airflow meter causing misfires if disturbed yes

May be worth checking them out smile

wedgienauld

130 posts

258 months

Monday 22nd October 2007
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A difficult one to answer without specific knowledge of your knowledge of such things and your car - but under the circumstances I'd try the following first. Remove your distributor cap and clean it and dry it. Remove each of the leads and clean and dry. Cloth and hair dryer. You don,nt want WD 40 inside the cap on the distributor inside. Most important; clean each of the points inside the distributor, which are contacted by the rotor arm, and remove any signs of electrolytic corrosion, (- white and becomes green in extreme case, here). I use a small pen knife. Be care not to stab yourself or damage the cap. Report back.

blitzracing

6,422 posts

250 months

Monday 22nd October 2007
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Fat Griff said:
What do you mean by header temperature? All the plugs are dry and but very sooty.
If they are dry and sooty, its likely to be firing, but running rich. The nearest I think for this is failed connections on the mass air flow meter. It will run very rich, and can be driven, but very rough.

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Up date please Hayden smile

wedgienauld

130 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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...yeah - finish the story.... tumbleweed

dumbfunk

1,727 posts

314 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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I had this after being caught in a vile European downpour.

About 6" up from the coil are a couple of diodes in line with the Low Tension leads. They're usually wrapped in crappy old electrical tape but if you unwind it you may find as I did that they are wet and corroded.

If so, clean em up and you're golden.


df

Fat Griff

Original Poster:

176 posts

266 months

Friday 26th October 2007
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Still working on it Guys!!!!!!! I work long days at work you know!

wedgienauld

130 posts

258 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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tumbleweed

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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wedgienauld said:
tumbleweed
tumbleweedtumbleweed

Fat Griff

Original Poster:

176 posts

266 months

Saturday 3rd November 2007
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Getting There!

Fat Griff

Original Poster:

176 posts

266 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Right!bounce
I pulled all the ignition of the car and left the plugs out for a few days, put it back together with a new coil, rotor arm, dizzy cap, ignition amp and it now ran on all 8! Great! But it didnt want to idle and was really down on power?????!!!!!!!!!! It started to get worse and stall, but then i saw the light! Literally, the main Cat was glowing! Yep thats had it! All the f4rtin about running my baby with a misfire must of burnt the cat out! So the dead cat was replaced and it idled! But was still down on power after 4,000 rpm. My thoughts were now leaning to the AFM (Air Flow Metre) So tried running it with out it connected and guess what! It ran better on its default mode! So sourced a new 1 and she works and goes fine! So just a little bit of advice to any one that might want to Jet Wash there engine, its not a good idea! Thanks for all the tips guys! beerwoohoo

Big Ashy

492 posts

283 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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scratchchin Don`t like the sound of a "glowing Cat", to me, that sounds like your ignition timing is out. Make sure your distributor is secure at the clamp and it doesn`t spin, its worth checking! thumbup

Fat Griff

Original Poster:

176 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th November 2007
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The cat glowed because unburnt fuel was entering it, due to the misfire! But its all sorted now