A bit of fun over my holiday
A bit of fun over my holiday
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dnb

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3,330 posts

272 months

Friday 28th December 2007
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Finally got all the pieces to put the Griff back together...
Just need to put the air feeds on now and all's good.



It drives well now, but there's now a load of new tuning to do because the VE map is now totally wrong... biggrin

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Hi David, That installation looks great yes and big thumbup to you... although I might ask...are you colour blind per chance hehe interesting place for the coil packs too did you have a bracket made to hold them there?

Have you had it on a RR yet? either way i bet your glad to get it back on the road

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dnb

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3,330 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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No, not colour blind. Just can't afford to get bespoke hoses made in my choice of colour frown

The coils were a real pain - they didn't really want to fit in, so it was that or nothing. Next time I'll find some smaller ones...

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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I was only joking David about the colours its more about Function.. I am suprised Clive didnt make a nice holder for teh Coils?

Well done thumbup admire the work you have done.

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clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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hi Simon, we did try but the coil packs were so big it didn`t give us many options on where to put them, let alone make them look nice and neat, perhaps if dave trys some smaller ones later on we can sort something out, but it is a proto type after all.
dave briefly fired it up yesterday, the induction noise adds another dimension to an already awesome sounding car!

I do think that he is going to have to find a purple dye or paint though, those green filters and blue hoses don`t quite match in with the scheme of thingshehe

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

269 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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You'll probably hate me for saying this but is there any mileage in moving the air intakes forward a bit? Looks like she's breathing in directly above the exhausts.

Cooler air = more density = more oomph?


Looks a lot nicer than mine at the mo though irked

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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your`e quite right, the filters are only fitted there for the moment to see what it runs like, but 2 hoses will run down to the usual intake area.

Pupp

12,971 posts

302 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Hopefully will function as well as it looks smile

What's the logic for having the Oxygen sensor in one bank only (I'm assuming the sensor in the driver's side is for EGT)?

Maybe the individual Ford pattern four-tower coil packs would be a more versatile solution. Did wonder about mounting a pack on the inner wing adjacent to each head but guess the firing order would bugger that up.

dnb

Original Poster:

3,330 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Well spotted! There's only one oxygen sensor because I'm lazy (and haven't had time) to wire the second one in. I'd need to weld in some more bosses for the EGT sensors. (there should be 2 of these too)

I have looked at the Subaru coil blocks because they are the same fitting for the HT leads as I have already. They're similar to the Ford ones. I believe it does work with the firing order if you have a block on each side.

I don't really want to give the individual coils up because they're able to be used for ion sensing when it finally works on my ECU... wink

dnb

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3,330 posts

272 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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I spent a pleasant morning at Joos establishment on Thursday to get some data on how the plenums perform.

Remember that at the Growl, the car produced a mild 260 bhp, and that both times we were using 95 RON fuel (therefore det limited at the top end, with a fair bit of timing removed) The torque below 3000 RPM is now slightly better by a few ftlbs, and the plenums result in much more at the top end, even with the slight misfire from my dodgy HT leads...



The hump at 4000 RPM is a bit of a strange one, and I'm not too sure why it's there. Presumably it's some pulse tuning artifact. It's definitely a feature of the car and not the dyno because we get the same answer every time.

There's still plenty of playing to do, but I'm happy so far with a 50bhp gain that seems to be from the plenums and altering the fuelling to suit... Now I need to do something to stop the heatsoak while pootling round in town, check cam timing and so-on.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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Looking good Dave thumbup

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Pupp

12,971 posts

302 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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Cracking result I'd say... the hump looks fun with no corresponding holes before, must feel pretty noticeable when driving cool

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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thats a good starting point Dave, as you say a few things to check and then give it another run should see a good improvement thumbup

Pete500

151 posts

274 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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Great pics and figures Dave! Youre closing in wink

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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The Blade joins the Monster club at last thumbup

So far so good buddy smile