Fuel pipe - Jointed?
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Are Griff fuel pipes usually jointed near the bulkhead? I'm inspecting/replacing mine and this joint doesn't look like it should be there, I suspect someone has replaced just part of it 
Do they usually run from the fuel rail straight to the copper pipe near the gearbox?
ETA:
I can see why it's been done now, how the f
k are you supposed to replace the pipe without amputating a couple of limbs and throwing them down behind the bulkhead?
Do they usually run from the fuel rail straight to the copper pipe near the gearbox?
ETA:
I can see why it's been done now, how the f
k are you supposed to replace the pipe without amputating a couple of limbs and throwing them down behind the bulkhead?Edited by TheGriffalo on Friday 7th March 15:49
Quinny said:
They're not really suited to this application.
If a Jubilee clip weeps a bit on a coolant hose, all that'll happen is that you might lose a bit of water.
If it weeps on a petrol pipe, could be a bit more serious
Put it this way, I wouldn't use Jubilee clip on a petrol pipe.
Hello Quinny My Yellow Backed Buddy If a Jubilee clip weeps a bit on a coolant hose, all that'll happen is that you might lose a bit of water.
If it weeps on a petrol pipe, could be a bit more serious
Put it this way, I wouldn't use Jubilee clip on a petrol pipe.
Do the clips you refer to have a name ?
Quinny said:
I thought I'd better spell it out for you Pasco, so click on the linK
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Thanx Mate http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDeta...
Quinny said:
Come on Pasco, own up.
You've got Jubilee clips on the fuel pipes haven't you???
Just so's you know the main difference is that a proper fuel line clip has a bit of a sleeve type arrangement, so that when you tighten it, it applies a very even pressure around the pipe.
Whereas a jubilee clip, will "dig" in where the joint is, and eventually it will damage the hose
So now you know, and thats a brew you owe me
Listen Yellow Boy !!You've got Jubilee clips on the fuel pipes haven't you???
Just so's you know the main difference is that a proper fuel line clip has a bit of a sleeve type arrangement, so that when you tighten it, it applies a very even pressure around the pipe.
Whereas a jubilee clip, will "dig" in where the joint is, and eventually it will damage the hose
So now you know, and thats a brew you owe me
I have what TVR Saw fit to put on my motor and that's it
Quinny said:
Cheers mate
Couple of months hard graft to finish off a couple of outstanding projects for them
Then I'm off, signed all the papers yesterday.
Its gonna be a great feeling, and I really want to leave on a positive note.
The really nice thing was, they didn't want me to go, and turned my application for V. redundancy down Which was very flattering.
But they accepted that due to health reasons it wasn't really fair to keep me if I'd made my mind up.
I really couldn't have asked for a better deal, I've been there 22 years, and they've been a great company to work for.
I've been very lucky to work for such an outfit, and I'm going to do my best for them in these last few weeks
Hey Well done Quinny you deserve it you Yellow Bellied (Actually Clive Mate your welding is Fantastic)Couple of months hard graft to finish off a couple of outstanding projects for them
Then I'm off, signed all the papers yesterday.
Its gonna be a great feeling, and I really want to leave on a positive note.
The really nice thing was, they didn't want me to go, and turned my application for V. redundancy down
Which was very flattering.But they accepted that due to health reasons it wasn't really fair to keep me if I'd made my mind up.
I really couldn't have asked for a better deal, I've been there 22 years, and they've been a great company to work for.
I've been very lucky to work for such an outfit, and I'm going to do my best for them in these last few weeks
so and so 
steve-V8s said:
To get back on topic, you can get at both the fuel pipe joints better with the plenum off. All quite easy then.
Straying back off topic 
Its not so easy if you have to diet for 10 years so that you can reach the plenum first though
BTW, Jubilee do make other clips than the dreaded worm drive, IIRC they do the 'super clamp?' pipe clips. Just remember when buying clips they are specified by diameter (just divide by 3 ((~pi)) to calculate diameter range).
Dave
steve-V8s said:
To get back on topic, you can get at both the fuel pipe joints better with the plenum off. All quite easy then.
If that's the case I'll replace the pipe as and when the plenum is off seeing as it's currently OK. Didn't want to miss an opportunity if having the body raised was the right time to do it though.Take care about assuming the pipe is OK. Because of topics on here I regularly checked the pipes on mine and they looked fine until one day there was a rather strong smell of petrol and a hissing sound as it sizzled on the hot manifold. They split on the inside of the bend which you can’t see and the fuel is under pressure so squirts out quite enthusiastically.
Hello TheGiffalo,
Just looking at the picture again, on the fuel pipe shown, it looks like there could be 2 rubber sections joined by the a short piece of copper. Is that what you were questioning?
Originally there would have been just 1 rubber section on both the supply and return pipes fitted between the main copper pipes that run along the chassis and the fuel rail.
If your rubber section has been cut and joined with only the part of it having been replaced in the past I would return it to the original spec and replace all the rubber with just 1 new section in each pipe.
Purple V8
Just looking at the picture again, on the fuel pipe shown, it looks like there could be 2 rubber sections joined by the a short piece of copper. Is that what you were questioning?
Originally there would have been just 1 rubber section on both the supply and return pipes fitted between the main copper pipes that run along the chassis and the fuel rail.
If your rubber section has been cut and joined with only the part of it having been replaced in the past I would return it to the original spec and replace all the rubber with just 1 new section in each pipe.
Purple V8
TheGriffalo said:
Yup, it's that join that I was questioning. So, it seems you have to pop the plenum off to replace the pipe, what kind of a job is that and does it seal up again relatively easily? Any gaskets involved?
If you gotta do it the Plenum comes of easy, Undo allen bolts holding it down,unplug stepper,throttle pot plug,air intake pipe and you can lift it up and off with all the throttle still connected adn rest on side of car.No Gasket just something like Hymolar blue will do ..remember to clean old off
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