Moving the Powering Steering Reservoir
Discussion
Hi all,
I'd like to fit my coil packs along the side of the plenum which means relocating the P/S reservoir.. possibily to near/next to the swirl pot or near the windsreen reservoir.
Can anyone offer some advice or tips, especially on whether the P/S reservoir needs to be higher than the actual P/S pump.
Many thanks!!!
I'd like to fit my coil packs along the side of the plenum which means relocating the P/S reservoir.. possibily to near/next to the swirl pot or near the windsreen reservoir.
Can anyone offer some advice or tips, especially on whether the P/S reservoir needs to be higher than the actual P/S pump.
Many thanks!!!
Have CPs and the original coil etc on mine at the mo (joys of converting while trying to keep car drivable). The CPs are on the drivers side of the Plenum and the PS pot is zip tied in front of them (roughly where the oem coil lives... that is now across the front, behind the alternator. It will be going in the gap where the dizzy is/was. It can't be below the pump as the cap vents to atmosphere, and headroom is an issue under much of the bonnet span.
You fabbing the CP bracket or sourced one (think SC power might have a pattern)? Made mine but am a bit wiser for doing it
You fabbing the CP bracket or sourced one (think SC power might have a pattern)? Made mine but am a bit wiser for doing it
I have the PAS reservoir mounted on the front chassis rail. It's been there for a couple of years now with no incident. The one gotcha is that there is a little vent hole in the lid, and this can spray a fine mist of fluid over the exhaust manifold. This is not good.
I used to have the coils on the right hand rocker. They fit nicely there, but I have other things there now.
I think you can see everything I've said from this pic:
I used to have the coils on the right hand rocker. They fit nicely there, but I have other things there now.
I think you can see everything I've said from this pic:
Why not use P38 coil packs which fit behind the plenum, neat tidy and you can get rid of the original coil and any other gubbins there.
Leave the PAS reservoir where it is and bob's etc . .
I agree yu can get EDIS packs cheaply, but second coil packs are easy enough to get off Ebay.
They come with lugs that fit into the inlet manifold and fuel rail and therefore no fabbing necessary . .
Leave the PAS reservoir where it is and bob's etc . .
I agree yu can get EDIS packs cheaply, but second coil packs are easy enough to get off Ebay.
They come with lugs that fit into the inlet manifold and fuel rail and therefore no fabbing necessary . .
Easy to say, but I disagree.
If you can explain to me the key benefit you are getting from EDIS packs versus P38 ones I'm all
Nearly all of the install I have seen make the engine bay look like a complete mess of HT leads and loom feeds, which I don't like and lead the user to have to come up with new positions for components and start fabricating stuff.
Part of the beauty of the install of an aftermarket ECU is to clear up the engine bay. Don't get me wrong, it was far from my first priority, but why waste the opportunity
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Next comes the criticism of reliability. Well I've got 2 mates who have rangies purely for off road with coil packs and these things are ancient and they've had no grief whatsoever. Yet my cousin has been through 3 sets on his ford and a mate who has been through 2 on his MX5 which are much newer machines. You take as you find.
Next comes price, you challenge me there, however, when there is a ready supply of second hand unit's availble I'll stick with them . .
So you see I'm all waiting for you to tell me the benefits of EDIS packs ?
If you can explain to me the key benefit you are getting from EDIS packs versus P38 ones I'm all
Nearly all of the install I have seen make the engine bay look like a complete mess of HT leads and loom feeds, which I don't like and lead the user to have to come up with new positions for components and start fabricating stuff.
Part of the beauty of the install of an aftermarket ECU is to clear up the engine bay. Don't get me wrong, it was far from my first priority, but why waste the opportunity
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Next comes the criticism of reliability. Well I've got 2 mates who have rangies purely for off road with coil packs and these things are ancient and they've had no grief whatsoever. Yet my cousin has been through 3 sets on his ford and a mate who has been through 2 on his MX5 which are much newer machines. You take as you find.
Next comes price, you challenge me there, however, when there is a ready supply of second hand unit's availble I'll stick with them . .
So you see I'm all
waiting for you to tell me the benefits of EDIS packs ?cinquecento said:
Thanks all.
I didn't consider the P38 packs as I wasn't sure an EDIS-8 module would be compatible with those coils.. so opted for Mondeo coil packs.
Gary, I did plan to make a bracket for the CPs..but haven't started that process yet. Your bracket looks great..!!
Joking aside, the P38s are a neat solution but I sourced some MSD Ford type packs at the right money. Originally the idea was to piggy back them in the dizzy gap but I just couldn't visualise a bracket for that one ('though it has been done).I didn't consider the P38 packs as I wasn't sure an EDIS-8 module would be compatible with those coils.. so opted for Mondeo coil packs.
Gary, I did plan to make a bracket for the CPs..but haven't started that process yet. Your bracket looks great..!!
Johno said:
Easy to say, but I disagree.
If you can explain to me the key benefit you are getting from EDIS packs versus P38 ones I'm all
Nearly all of the install I have seen make the engine bay look like a complete mess of HT leads and loom feeds, which I don't like and lead the user to have to come up with new positions for components and start fabricating stuff.
Part of the beauty of the install of an aftermarket ECU is to clear up the engine bay. Don't get me wrong, it was far from my first priority, but why waste the opportunity
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Next comes the criticism of reliability. Well I've got 2 mates who have rangies purely for off road with coil packs and these things are ancient and they've had no grief whatsoever. Yet my cousin has been through 3 sets on his ford and a mate who has been through 2 on his MX5 which are much newer machines. You take as you find.
Next comes price, you challenge me there, however, when there is a ready supply of second hand unit's availble I'll stick with them . .
So you see I'm all waiting for you to tell me the benefits of EDIS packs ?
Err...isn't there a perf/mesh aperture directly above where they would be? There is on a ChimIf you can explain to me the key benefit you are getting from EDIS packs versus P38 ones I'm all
Nearly all of the install I have seen make the engine bay look like a complete mess of HT leads and loom feeds, which I don't like and lead the user to have to come up with new positions for components and start fabricating stuff.
Part of the beauty of the install of an aftermarket ECU is to clear up the engine bay. Don't get me wrong, it was far from my first priority, but why waste the opportunity
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Next comes the criticism of reliability. Well I've got 2 mates who have rangies purely for off road with coil packs and these things are ancient and they've had no grief whatsoever. Yet my cousin has been through 3 sets on his ford and a mate who has been through 2 on his MX5 which are much newer machines. You take as you find.
Next comes price, you challenge me there, however, when there is a ready supply of second hand unit's availble I'll stick with them . .
So you see I'm all
waiting for you to tell me the benefits of EDIS packs ?Sure is, but the design of the Griffith is different, especially on mine as an SE where the bulkhead cut back isn't as deep.
Also check out the bulkhead, it's not an area where water puddles, collects or generally causes issues. How much water do you see pouring up your bonnet and over the back of it ?
I use mine all year and I don't see an issue.
Also check out the bulkhead, it's not an area where water puddles, collects or generally causes issues. How much water do you see pouring up your bonnet and over the back of it ?
I use mine all year and I don't see an issue.
Edited by Johno on Monday 17th March 22:02
Johno said:
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Fine, but the mounting point for the P38 coils (behind the plenum) gets soaked by rain water running off the screen when stationary...And for the price of 2nd hand P38 coils, I got 8 new coils that will support my cunning plans for ion sensing ignition
Thirdly, I'd have nowhere to put the stepper motor with my current plenum arrangement.
Johno said:
Sure is, but the design of the Griffith is different, especially on mine as an SE where the bulkhead cut back isn't as deep.
Also check out the bulkhead, it's not an area where water puddles, collects or generally causes issues. How much water do you see pouring up your bonnet and over the back of it ?
I use mine all year and I don't see an issue.
Fair do's... I get gallons running down the screen and through there when the car is parked up. Don't wiper park switches die through lying in puddles that ingress through there? Maybe not on SEs againAlso check out the bulkhead, it's not an area where water puddles, collects or generally causes issues. How much water do you see pouring up your bonnet and over the back of it ?
I use mine all year and I don't see an issue.
Edited by Johno on Monday 17th March 22:02
Must agree with Johno here. I think it looks a real tidy installation, I havent read or heard of any problems with them and I know a few mud pluggers ( or whatever there called).Plentiful if goes faulty and no modding of anything needed.
Heres mine it was just sitting in so i could measure the HT leads up.
BB
Heres mine it was just sitting in so i could measure the HT leads up.
BB
dnb said:
Johno said:
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Fine, but the mounting point for the P38 coils (behind the plenum) gets soaked by rain water running off the screen when stationary...BB
Ballistic Banana said:
dnb said:
Johno said:
The key criticism I get from research is that the P38 coil packs do not work well in wet conditions, well guss what, the TVR isn't an off road vehicle and where they're located there isn't going to be loads of water any where near them.
Fine, but the mounting point for the P38 coils (behind the plenum) gets soaked by rain water running off the screen when stationary...BB
Now That may help a lot 
Just for clarification: will the EDIS-8 unit drive P38 coils packs bearing in mind EDIS-8 will control dwell and current.
I am not too familiar will Emerald/Omex, so may be the P38 coils are driven by the ECU directly as opposed to Megasquirt, where ECU contols advance only and EDIS handles dweel and coil ignition.
I am not too familiar will Emerald/Omex, so may be the P38 coils are driven by the ECU directly as opposed to Megasquirt, where ECU contols advance only and EDIS handles dweel and coil ignition.
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