Different design master clutch cylinder
Different design master clutch cylinder
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tvr4ever

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644 posts

290 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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I don't know if it's just me, or they all do that, but my master clutch cylinder fails about every year. I have no idea if it's the design, or whatever, but mine fails to often i think. I read in one of the postings on here, i have tried to find it again, but failed, that there is a firm that sells a different make / model / design master clutch cylinder for the Griffith that doesn't fail every year. Is there anyone out there that can point me in the right direction ?


350Matt

3,906 posts

309 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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I'm surprised you're having such problems to be honest, can't say I've heard of it being an issue before.

May be worth taking a close look at the pushrod connection on the pedal and make sure that there's no angularity which would introduce a side load into the piston.

Also use dot 5 fluid as the seals tend to last longer with it.

I did replace the clutch cylinder in my cerbera with a willwood item from rally design ( much cheaper) and that had a a double seal arrangement which may be more robust.

Matt

tvr4ever

Original Poster:

644 posts

290 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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350Matt said:
I'm surprised you're having such problems to be honest, can't say I've heard of it being an issue before.

May be worth taking a close look at the pushrod connection on the pedal and make sure that there's no angularity which would introduce a side load into the piston.

Also use dot 5 fluid as the seals tend to last longer with it.

I did replace the clutch cylinder in my cerbera with a willwood item from rally design ( much cheaper) and that had a a double seal arrangement which may be more robust.

Matt
Hi Matt,
I use DOT 5.1 fluid, so that should be ok. I emailed Wilwood the question, maybe they have a cylinder that's more up to the job. I hear from other club members that their cylinders also tend to give up way ahead of schedule.
Fred

shpub

8,507 posts

302 months

Thursday 1st May 2008
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I have used a Wilwood clutch master in the past and it is not a direct fit. Yes it fits, but the pipe fitting is different and the supplied arm is very different, I had to swop the arms over and make a new pipe fitting.

Is it any better? Not really. I used it as I needed a bigger bore cylinder.

350Matt

3,906 posts

309 months

Thursday 1st May 2008
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Aah but has it gone pop yet Steve?

I did about 8K miles on my cerby one with no issues, then sold the car

Matt

shpub

8,507 posts

302 months

Thursday 1st May 2008
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Nope but neither have the ones in the other 9 TVRs that I have owned. Replaced the Wedge one because the seals went a bit iffy and that has been that. I think that was about 8 years ago though...

tvr4ever

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644 posts

290 months

Thursday 1st May 2008
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shpub said:
Nope but neither have the ones in the other 9 TVRs that I have owned. Replaced the Wedge one because the seals went a bit iffy and that has been that. I think that was about 8 years ago though...
Not that i don't believe you Steve, but you must be the luckiest man on earth. I know of no Griffith or Chimaera (we don't have Cerberas over here) owner that has a master clutch cylinder of that age, and that still works. I mean you, race the thing and it keeps on working, mine is used on a few track days a year, one holiday in Italy, in total about 10000 km. a year and it gives up about once a year.
It must be my muscular leg......

Fred

shpub

8,507 posts

302 months

Friday 2nd May 2008
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The one in my Griff is... 10 years old... Still the original. Never been replaced either.

This isn't an issue with LHD by any chance? If the pedal/master alignment is slight out, it can kill master cylinders.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 2nd May 2008
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shpub said:
This isn't an issue with LHD by any chance? If the pedal/master alignment is slight out, it can kill master cylinders.
Hmmmscratchchin, mine's LHD and has just failed, so will take a close look at the alignment.

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

255 months

Monday 5th May 2008
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350Matt said:
May be worth taking a close look at the pushrod connection on the pedal and make sure that there's no angularity which would introduce a side load into the piston.
My Chimaera has two holes drilled close together on the pedal. Using one over the other could certainly cause that type of problem.