Hot Start Problem.
Hot Start Problem.
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fastandcurious

Original Poster:

437 posts

238 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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I know what you're all thinking. 'Not that old chestnut again'. I've looked at the history on this subject of which there is a lot. I wondered whether there have been any current breakthroughs on this as my car now seems to be suffering the symptoms associated with this phenomenon, having never suffered from this before during the 2 years of my ownership.

Modwise Kits - do they work? How easy is it to change the starter motor if it needs it? Imobiliser problems etc.

I've checked the earth connection from engine to chassis and starter motor terminals.

It won't crank over when hot(not even a click)leave it a few minutes and away it goes.

Any advice on this subject would be welcome. Many thanks CRAIG

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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hi Craig, yes the modwise kit sorts it all out, no excuses buy it!!yes

fastandcurious

Original Poster:

437 posts

238 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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wavey Hi Clive. I'll give the modwise kit a go. The way I see it, it can only improve things and it's cheap.thumbup

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

277 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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It works and apparently it protects the immobiliser cicuit too.
For the money its a no brainer and about 30 minutes to fit. Even I fitted it with no need to call David.
FFG

lockhart flawse

2,103 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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Modwise - it works.

L.F.

Pupp

12,968 posts

302 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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lockhart flawse said:
Modwise - it works.

L.F.
Unless the immobiliser is already fubarred wink

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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Yes, the modwise kit works. I bought a great Griff a couple of months ago - and of course when I tried to restart after the long journey home I had the 'click and not starting problem'. With the kit installed, no problems despite a number of similar tests after long journeys since.

fastandcurious

Original Poster:

437 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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Ok. I'm convinced. I'll phone David Beer in the morning.phone

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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Does it fit earlier cars? IIRC they don't have the same facility (ie LR auto box loom with starter relay defeat). I seem to recall DB advised just fitting a relay near the starter in that case?

fastandcurious

Original Poster:

437 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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spend said:
Does it fit earlier cars? IIRC they don't have the same facility (ie LR auto box loom with starter relay defeat). I seem to recall DB advised just fitting a relay near the starter in that case?
When you refer to earlier cars do you mean earlier 500s or pre cats? Have you got one on your Chim?

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Tuesday 30th September 2008
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spend said:
Does it fit earlier cars? IIRC they don't have the same facility (ie LR auto box loom with starter relay defeat). I seem to recall DB advised just fitting a relay near the starter in that case?
I think Dave is right but ask DB yes

It sorted my problem out Craig so go for what ever DB suggests it saves a World of Embarrassment of which we could all do without given the reputation most of the general public think due to the likes of Clarkson and co rolleyes

tvrbob

11,197 posts

285 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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I'm sure the Modwise kit does what it says on the tin but owners shouldn't forget that there are two common hot start issues. The second being overheating of the starter solenoid causing the solenoid shaft to stick when very hot. If this is your problem then Modwise won't help. The solution for this is to strip down the starter solenoid, clean and replace the high temp grease and fit a heat shield to protect the solenoid from the exhaust.

LeggitS3

71 posts

244 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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Another option albeit more expensive is to fit a heavy duty starter motor. TVR car parts do one and it solved my problems, I think they get them from South Africa or somewhere where lots of heat is the norm. When I say more expensive it's dearer than a modwise kit but if you need a new starter I think it was about the same as a standard one.


David Beer

3,982 posts

297 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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sticky solenoid is cured by putting the relay in the circuit. On early cars 350,390 etc it is done under the bonnet.