Griffith Targa - tricky to fit....or just me?
Griffith Targa - tricky to fit....or just me?
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daveb500

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391 posts

217 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I've had a Griff for about 6 months now and always find the front of the targa fiddly to fit. Is this normal or just me?

Firstly, when you initially fit the roof, it doesn't go in very far until you lock the struts in place.
Then, sometimes the front rubber distorts in one corner when you lock the struts and I have to start again.
And finally, sometimes the side window gabs are slightly out and I have to unlock the structs and give the roof a little shove one way or the other. Otherwise, one window catches on the rubber and the other has a small gap (which whistles nicely in the wind).

I've assumed so far that this is normal TVR but is it?

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Yep. Though it varies with different cars.
I have a white mark on both the inside seal and the edge of the targa panel, which I painted with tipex when I was happy I'd got it set perfectly one day.
To put the panel in I put the leading edge in, tip up the back edge to more than 45deg to get the front lip into the seal correctly (which feels very odd), line up the two white marks you will now be able to see, and drop the leading edge in. Lower the rear edge down whilst applying forward pressure.
Lift and attach the rear folding section and clip the alloy struts shut. Being careful of your fingers!

If the roof hasn't seated very well at the leading edge, gently apply downward pressure and the gap should close up.

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I agree that it can be a pain to line up but I find that if I put the roof panel into the front channel at an angle, like Ian, I can line the panel up with the cut out and the peg and then push forward and down to make the seal at the front. I've got used to knowing where the edge of the panel should be and I open both doors while putting the panel on. If you've put the panel in correctly it will support itself while you sit in the car and close the struts, the struts on mine are tight enough to push the panel tight and create a decent water and wind tight seal. Leaving the doors open until it's locked into place helps make sure all the seals are in the correct place.

daveb500

Original Poster:

391 posts

217 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Thanks. I'm happy to live with these things as long as I know that it isn't just me smile. I'll give your method a try to see if it's any easier.

HRG

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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V8 GRF said:
I agree that it can be a pain to line up but I find that if I put the roof panel into the front channel at an angle, like Ian, I can line the panel up with the cut out and the peg and then push forward and down to make the seal at the front. I've got used to knowing where the edge of the panel should be and I open both doors while putting the panel on. If you've put the panel in correctly it will support itself while you sit in the car and close the struts, the struts on mine are tight enough to push the panel tight and create a decent water and wind tight seal. Leaving the doors open until it's locked into place helps make sure all the seals are in the correct place.
I do something similar but I put the windows up to rest the roof on until the targa is in. I then open each door and put the strut up. The 45 degree part is the important bit IMO smile

RichB

56,281 posts

314 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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To be honest I've never had a problem. I've noticed that it can be offset to one or other side by a few mm's but not much and usually it goes in right first time. As for not slotting in at the front, I'd rather it was tight. I usually pop up the struts and give it a thump with my hand which causes it to go into place.

HRG

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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If the truth be known the real reason Griff owners find it tricky is that the roof remains in the boot where it belongs... I bet Chimp owners are ace at putting their roofs on hehe

Roy E6

1,025 posts

262 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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HRG said:
the roof remains in the boot where it belongs... hehe
Only because its a pain in the ass to get in there in the first place, Typical TVR after thought, "oh thats a result it just about fits in there" Rather than checking it before it went into production.

Del 203

12,728 posts

279 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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HRG said:
If the truth be known the real reason Griff owners find it tricky is that the roof remains in the boot where it belongs... I bet Chimp owners are ace at putting their roofs on hehe
clap well said sir smile



Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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some are even hardcore enough not to even bother taking the roof with them...or even madder and put a chainsaw too it evil

BB

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Maybe im approaching it differently/wrong,but ive not had any issue,or preffered method to refit the panel like some of you have.... i just locate the front peg,let the panel sit there by itself,raise the rear section to locate the seal and pop each side strut closed..... obviously as these cars are,shall we say indevidual,then there might well be variations on how each one goes about it i guess.

AlexanderV8

1,489 posts

233 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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rigga said:
Maybe im approaching it differently/wrong,but ive not had any issue,or preffered method to refit the panel like some of you have.... i just locate the front peg,let the panel sit there by itself,raise the rear section to locate the seal and pop each side strut closed..... obviously as these cars are,shall we say indevidual,then there might well be variations on how each one goes about it i guess.
No, don't undersell yourself, you're just obviously more intelligent than the typical griff owner! wink

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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AlexanderV8 said:
No, don't undersell yourself, you're just obviously more intelligent than the typical griff owner! wink
I can tell straight away you have never met me.....;)

LordGrover

34,169 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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RichB said:
To be honest I've never had a problem. I've noticed that it can be offset to one or other side by a few mm's but not much and usually it goes in right first time. As for not slotting in at the front, I'd rather it was tight. I usually pop up the struts and give it a thump with my hand which causes it to go into place.
rigga said:
Maybe im approaching it differently/wrong,but ive not had any issue,or preffered method to refit the panel like some of you have.... i just locate the front peg,let the panel sit there by itself,raise the rear section to locate the seal and pop each side strut closed..... obviously as these cars are,shall we say indevidual,then there might well be variations on how each one goes about it i guess.
I'm with you two. Maybe it's as said above and some are easier than others but for me it's never been an issue.

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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LordGrover said:
RichB said:
To be honest I've never had a problem. I've noticed that it can be offset to one or other side by a few mm's but not much and usually it goes in right first time. As for not slotting in at the front, I'd rather it was tight. I usually pop up the struts and give it a thump with my hand which causes it to go into place.
rigga said:
Maybe im approaching it differently/wrong,but ive not had any issue,or preffered method to refit the panel like some of you have.... i just locate the front peg,let the panel sit there by itself,raise the rear section to locate the seal and pop each side strut closed..... obviously as these cars are,shall we say indevidual,then there might well be variations on how each one goes about it i guess.
I'm with you two. Maybe it's as said above and some are easier than others but for me it's never been an issue.
Me too. Never had a problem with either Griff I've owned. Open both doors, insert the front lugs and the roof holds itself in place, then raise the rear section and mate the rear lugs to it then close the struts. 30 sec job.

cloggy

4,959 posts

239 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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daveb500 said:
I've had a Griff for about 6 months now and always find the front of the targa fiddly to fit. Is this normal or just me?
Always check if your medaillion chain is not stuck between the roof and the targa.

HTH

Del 203

12,728 posts

279 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Englishman said:
LordGrover said:
RichB said:
To be honest I've never had a problem. I've noticed that it can be offset to one or other side by a few mm's but not much and usually it goes in right first time. As for not slotting in at the front, I'd rather it was tight. I usually pop up the struts and give it a thump with my hand which causes it to go into place.
rigga said:
Maybe im approaching it differently/wrong,but ive not had any issue,or preffered method to refit the panel like some of you have.... i just locate the front peg,let the panel sit there by itself,raise the rear section to locate the seal and pop each side strut closed..... obviously as these cars are,shall we say indevidual,then there might well be variations on how each one goes about it i guess.
I'm with you two. Maybe it's as said above and some are easier than others but for me it's never been an issue.
Me too. Never had a problem with either Griff I've owned. Open both doors, insert the front lugs and the roof holds itself in place, then raise the rear section and mate the rear lugs to it then close the struts. 30 sec job.
And me. Pop the passenger side on, place the drivers side on (not that its on very often) do up 1 strut, shove panels together click 2nd strut..... Jobs a goodun smile



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LordGrover

34,169 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Del 203 said:
And me. Pop the passenger side on, place the drivers side on (not that its on very often) do up 1 strut, shove panels together click 2nd strut..... Jobs a goodun smile



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mrmaggit

10,146 posts

278 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Englishman said:
LordGrover said:
RichB said:
To be honest I've never had a problem. I've noticed that it can be offset to one or other side by a few mm's but not much and usually it goes in right first time. As for not slotting in at the front, I'd rather it was tight. I usually pop up the struts and give it a thump with my hand which causes it to go into place.
rigga said:
Maybe im approaching it differently/wrong,but ive not had any issue,or preffered method to refit the panel like some of you have.... i just locate the front peg,let the panel sit there by itself,raise the rear section to locate the seal and pop each side strut closed..... obviously as these cars are,shall we say indevidual,then there might well be variations on how each one goes about it i guess.
I'm with you two. Maybe it's as said above and some are easier than others but for me it's never been an issue.
Me too. Never had a problem with either Griff I've owned. Open both doors, insert the front lugs and the roof holds itself in place, then raise the rear section and mate the rear lugs to it then close the struts. 30 sec job.
Me too, line up, push front into groove, lift rear section, lock struts, thump front to finally settle, drive off.

HRG

72,863 posts

269 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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cloggy said:
daveb500 said:
I've had a Griff for about 6 months now and always find the front of the targa fiddly to fit. Is this normal or just me?
Always check if your medaillion chain is not stuck between the roof and the targa.

HTH
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