ECU loom
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ray_von

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282 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Who are peoples recommendations for fitting a new loom to an Omex ECU and removing all the redundant Lucas stuff?
What sort of costs are involved? PM me if you like

Ballistic Banana

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297 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Dont know about the omex, But PJ Dove wiring does them for the Emerald ECU's ...I can see them being much different except for maybe the connectors to the box? Does a fantastic job and re costs...depends on what you want in the loom ..

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Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

238 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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I think PJD charged about £600 for an Emerald loom. Quality job.

steve-V8s

2,924 posts

278 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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It is not really as difficult as you would think. If you rip out the entire standard loom and start to look at it you will find a lot of the wires are not used (they are there to run functions on the LandRover that the loom was made for) There are two connectors that link the engine loom to the body loom. One of them has two fused supplies and one ignition switched supply, the starter solenoid drive and fuel pump feed. The other does the temp sensor, Oil warning light, alternator, otter switch and stuff like that.

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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ray_von said:
Who are peoples recommendations for fitting a new loom to an Omex ECU and removing all the redundant Lucas stuff?
What sort of costs are involved? PM me if you like
Get a half loom from Omex and make up the rest of it yourself. I would allow about a hundred quid in parts (it's surprising how quickly the cost of connectors, relays, fuses, wires adds up). I would allow about a day's work although no doubt a professional would do it a lot quicker, I spend a lot of time checking and testing as I go.

ray_von

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Sunday 22nd March 2009
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GreenV8S said:
Get a half loom from Omex and make up the rest of it yourself. I would allow about a hundred quid in parts (it's surprising how quickly the cost of connectors, relays, fuses, wires adds up). I would allow about a day's work although no doubt a professional would do it a lot quicker, I spend a lot of time checking and testing as I go.
Fancy a day out in sunny Durham Peter hehe
Thanks for the replies. I must admit though I would not be confident doing it myself, I know my limitations and feel it would be a step too far.

GreenV8S

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314 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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ray_von said:
GreenV8S said:
Get a half loom from Omex and make up the rest of it yourself. I would allow about a hundred quid in parts (it's surprising how quickly the cost of connectors, relays, fuses, wires adds up). I would allow about a day's work although no doubt a professional would do it a lot quicker, I spend a lot of time checking and testing as I go.
Fancy a day out in sunny Durham Peter hehe
Thanks for the replies. I must admit though I would not be confident doing it myself, I know my limitations and feel it would be a step too far.
Are you planning to install the Omex yourself? There's no reason why not if you have a basic electrical skills and a general understanding of how EFI works. Armed with that you should have no trouble making up the loom (the half loom from Omex comes nicely labelled with instructions what to connect where) and all you need to do is cut, crimp, heat shrink and loom it.

If you're planning to install and set up the Omex yourself it would be a good idea to know exactly what is going on inside the loom. If not, perhaps the person who *is* going to do that would be a better person to make up the loom.

AntonyJ

5,254 posts

311 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Completely agree with Pete, I have a schematic and loom drawing for my new loom, due to the fact that I had a hand in drawing it!
Had my loom made locally, and armed with the drawing,am now completely confident to deal with any problems(that shouldn't) arise.

For a standard system, there isn't actually that much in the loom.

Edited by AntonyJ on Sunday 22 March 12:52

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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It also gives you the opportunity to rationalize the colour scheme (if you can see colours rofl) wink

It is a lot cheaper to just buy pins for the connectors and get manufacturers connector bodies from the scrap yard (they can also be better quality than the oem replacements).

I would not crimp cable joints together, far easier to make proper connectors to join looms IMHO.

AntonyJ

5,254 posts

311 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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My new loom is actually all the same colour throughout.

But each wire has its number printed on it the whole length and of course the numbers are on the drawing.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Exactly Ant so much can be got rid off...

Heres my old and new one.





A few llbs lost so more pies for me and probably a few future faults taken of the system....


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GreenV8S

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314 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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AntonyJ said:
My new loom is actually all the same colour throughout.

But each wire has its number printed on it the whole length and of course the numbers are on the drawing.
Flash git!

I'm jealous.

ray_von

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282 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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GreenV8S said:
Are you planning to install the Omex yourself? There's no reason why not if you have a basic electrical skills and a general understanding of how EFI works. Armed with that you should have no trouble making up the loom (the half loom from Omex comes nicely labelled with instructions what to connect where) and all you need to do is cut, crimp, heat shrink and loom it.

If you're planning to install and set up the Omex yourself it would be a good idea to know exactly what is going on inside the loom. If not, perhaps the person who *is* going to do that would be a better person to make up the loom.
The omex is already fitted, but it's patched in to the old loom. I knew it was not very good from looking at the excess of wire around the rocker cover on the offside, but yesterday I had the plenum off and the nearside was yikes
To paraphrase the Brian Clough quote which has been revived this week "I wouldn't say it's the worst loom in the world.....but it's in the top one" hehe

ray_von

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Thursday 26th March 2009
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Ok then, where does the loom pass through the bulkhead and wheres the best place to access it?

Ballistic Banana

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297 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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It's in the darkest corner. If lookng through from dash side( if it's out) if you go to the fare left bottom corner you should be able to fnd it and the rubber gaitor there. Engine side it's tucked right down at the end of the nearsidw rocker cover proberly behind some pipes etc but you should be able to follow it to where it goes through.. Sorry crap typin g done it on a phone

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Ballistic Banana

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Thursday 26th March 2009
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also forgot if you take the glovebox out and got to the fare right corner of the now huge hole, you should be able to see/feel the loom run around the back right hand corner and where it goes through to the engine bay. as it leaves the glove box area about a couple of inches at most It turns and goes through to the engine bay.

I may have some piccies will have a look later for you.

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rigga

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231 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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AntonyJ said:
My new loom is actually all the same colour throughout.

But each wire has its number printed on it the whole length and of course the numbers are on the drawing.
Much the same system we have on the trains......... trouble is when the numbers fade and become unreadable

ray_von

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Friday 27th March 2009
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Ballistic Banana said:
also forgot if you take the glovebox out and got to the fare right corner of the now huge hole, you should be able to see/feel the loom run around the back right hand corner and where it goes through to the engine bay. as it leaves the glove box area about a couple of inches at most It turns and goes through to the engine bay.

I may have some piccies will have a look later for you.

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Thanks for the info Simon, any pictures would be great. PM me them if you like