Plug Extenders...
Plug Extenders...
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GunShot (Wound)

Original Poster:

656 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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Have searched and checked out prices BUT who has the best Spark Plug Extenders.

They range from around £4 each INC to just over £9 each INC.

Did the check around engine bay in the dark for any little sparks.
Leads were good ( Jamie at Castle Race Engines ) but found every one of the plug extenders had little blue dancing fairies around the collars....

Only a year old but guess they take some stick...

Cheers.

Gunshot.

bigdods

7,175 posts

257 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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They should last more than a year. My current ones were supplied by Austec about 4 years ago and still fine. One broke recently, looks like it was hit by a stone so I bought a full set from ACT as their price is very good.

ETA if they have all broken down it must be running very rough. WHen I had the one broken one it caused a sporadic misfire and was like driving a lawnmower....

Edited by bigdods on Saturday 4th April 14:52

Pupp

12,967 posts

302 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Just out of interest, who apart from Beru actually makes them? They are the only ones I've ever seen/been able to find and are the ones I suspect most supply (although I have heard of resistive variants)

350Matt

3,897 posts

309 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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aren't they all resistive?

Mine all measure about 5Kohm

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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350Matt said:
aren't they all resistive?

Mine all measure about 5Kohm
Mine are the same,give or take..... checked them last week to see their condition,as they are a few years old now according to my records

Pupp

12,967 posts

302 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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Nope. Mine are unresistive

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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Pupp said:
Nope. Mine are unresistive
Same here,mine are the CRE ones wink solid cored,as far as i know the resisted ones are Buru only.

Edited by That Daddy on Sunday 5th April 22:23

Argent

480 posts

271 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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There are two types and you don't want to run resistive extenders with suppressed cables. Someone like Tim Lamont at ACT will be able to explain why, I think it has an effect on the strength (and therfore ignition ability) of the spark.

A.

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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So how do you tell which is which?.......

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Get an OHMs meter hehegetmecoat my un-resisted ones have no markings,yet all the resisted ones i have seen have Buru on and they are Vauxhall and to the best of my knowledge Vauxhall never fitted un-resisted ones to any of the donor car models,of course i am open to be corrected on this one frown

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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That Daddy said:
Get an OHMs meter hehegetmecoat
Smartarse..... do us a a favour and when you get a chance,whip one of your unresisted items off and measure the resistance through yours (all will have some resistance obviously) just so i have a figure to compare to biggrin

GunShot (Wound)

Original Poster:

656 posts

269 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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bigdods said:
They should last more than a year. My current ones were supplied by Austec about 4 years ago and still fine. One broke recently, looks like it was hit by a stone so I bought a full set from ACT as their price is very good.

ETA if they have all broken down it must be running very rough. WHen I had the one broken one it caused a sporadic misfire and was like driving a lawnmower....

Edited by bigdods on Saturday 4th April 14:52
Hence me doing the dark test.

Car was running fine up until thursday night.
Had changed the engine mounts the weekend before and I guess jacking the engine had dislodged two offside leads.

Went to the Oxfordshire tvrcc meeting and car was stood on damp grass for couple of hours, whether this would have been a factor I'm not sure.

Anyway put the two loose leads fully home on Friday and engine sounds better but still not right.

Have ordered a set of plug extenders from Act so will see this week.

I'm going to measure the resistance of the old against the new too.
Oh and checked receipts the existing extenders are THREE years old so I must be losing it... D'oh.

Edited by GunShot (Wound) on Monday 6th April 22:58


Edited by GunShot (Wound) on Monday 6th April 22:59


Edited by GunShot (Wound) on Monday 6th April 23:01

Wildfire

9,948 posts

282 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Replaced all of mine last year as 2 wer acrcing between themselves and the block, causing a very nasty misfire.

Got mine from ACT.

350Matt

3,897 posts

309 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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In all honesty I don't think it really matters if they're resistive or not, typically the level of resistance in an ignition lead will reduce the spark voltage but it also tends to increase the spark duration.

So you can either have a shorter more intense spark to get things going or a lower intensity but longer duration spark to get things going.

There's a case for both approaches, but in reality I doubt you could measure the difference on a dyno let alone a rolling road.

GunShot (Wound)

Original Poster:

656 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Ok.... New extenders from ACT turned up today.

They are the Beru ones and put the existing ones to shame.

The ones taken off are completely free of any manufacturing marks and to be honest looked pretty naff compared to the Beru ones.
The Beru ones have a thick shoulder before the metal shroud, I'm sure this is where the old ones were arcing as the shroud is so close to the end of the plug lead.

Well I measured the Beru ones and they are UNresistive.

The pile of ste ones all measured differently, some were zero while a couple reached around 4 to 5 ohms..

BONUS....Found a db meter on my multimeter so had a play, at idle the exhaust note hit 96.5 db and at 2k rpm 106.2 db. thumbup
Anyway engine now sweet as, smooth running and good throttle response but need to give it a run to double check..

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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rigga said:
That Daddy said:
Get an OHMs meter hehegetmecoat
Smartarse..... do us a a favour and when you get a chance,whip one of your unresisted items off and measure the resistance through yours (all will have some resistance obviously) just so i have a figure to compare to biggrin
Rigga,sorry mate no where near the car at the moment frown possibly not till tomorrow,intersting Gunshot that those Buru ones you have are UNresistive ears

Edited by That Daddy on Tuesday 7th April 22:56

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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That Daddy said:
rigga said:
That Daddy said:
Get an OHMs meter hehegetmecoat
Smartarse..... do us a a favour and when you get a chance,whip one of your unresisted items off and measure the resistance through yours (all will have some resistance obviously) just so i have a figure to compare to biggrin
Rigga,sorry mate no where near the car at the moment frown possibly not till tomorrow,intersting Gunshot that those Buru ones you have are UNresistive ears

Edited by That Daddy on Tuesday 7th April 22:56
No worries....... im also curious as Gunshot's beru extenders,as mine are the same,and deffinatly resistive,measuring approx 5kohms ...well 4.7 ish on each to be precise,they even have 5 k ohms written on the side so unless beru make another non resistive set im not sure whats going on there....

Andy. G

172 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Gary, fancy bringing your dB meter along to the next Oxfordshire meet, out of sympathy for your meter obviously Giles should be excluded redcard

dnb

3,330 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Beru made both resistive and non-resistive versions. The resistive ones are even stamped with the legend "resistive 5k ohm". (or something along those lines)

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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dnb said:
Beru made both resistive and non-resistive versions. The resistive ones are even stamped with the legend "resistive 5k ohm". (or something along those lines)
That explains it wink