Best place to get a throttle pot sensor

[zippy500]

99% sure I need a new throttle pot sensor after some mulitmeter testing last night, been doing some surfing and cheapest I can find is £100 from TVR shop.com

It's the later oval connector version I need.

Anyone know of a cheaper place, not tried a Rnage Rover dealer yet.

Was rather alarmed that TVRcarparts.com wanted £160

[chrispitman]

They seem to be silly money now, they were around £60 best bet is probably scrap yard.

[350Matt]

Its just a regular 5K pot with a slot drive isn't it?

In which case emerald show one for £23..

alternativly Rimmer bros list one for a range rover ( not the big round type used on the SD1) at £84

[Simon Says]

I got a new one from my local LR dealer 2 years ago £58 vat inclusive

[Pupp]

350Matt said:

Its just a regular 5K pot with a slot drive isn't it?

In which case emerald show one for £23..

alternativly Rimmer bros list one for a range rover ( not the big round type used on the SD1) at £84

The Emerald one can be made to fit but is not a bolt on apparently

[zippy500]

Hmm, will do some more investigating then.
Is that made to fit by drilling holes in the body for the bolts, or do you mean more drastic made to fit?

[zippy500]

Does anyone know the Range Rover/Land Rover part number for this little fella by any chance. I have the TVR number but thats no good for a R R dealer.

[Simon Says]

Just ask for one for a Range Rover/Discovery one circa 91-94ish,thats all i did,storesman may ask with or without the short piece of loom(he said two was listed)how i can remember all this i just don't know if i find the receipt i will let you know.Edited to say Land Rover Part No. ERR 2263

Edited by Simon Says on Friday 24th April 10:30

[zippy500]

Cheers, just done soem more surfing and found the same number. Price differences between dealers are amazing I have to say.

Many thanks

[rev-erend]

Famous four the Land Rover place list 2 for the Classic Range Rover 3.9 ..

http://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/parts-veh-rr...

Both look to be 3 wire jobbies .. just having a different connector.



or


One of the about is £89 and the other £135 .. amazing difference.

I bought one off ebay for a fiver and crimped on my own connectors.

From memory - the 3 wires are

5 V reference from ECU
0.3 V ~ 4.5 volts returned from T Pot
negative

Edited by rev-erend on Friday 24th April 12:10

[Pupp]

zippy500 said:

Hmm, will do some more investigating then.
Is that made to fit by drilling holes in the body for the bolts, or do you mean more drastic made to fit?

Never tried it but I remember being told (by Emerald) that it was the spindle interface that was different somehow

[Simon Says]

zippy500 said:

Cheers, just done soem more surfing and found the same number. Price differences between dealers are amazing I have to say.

Many thanks

just rang the dealer i got my one from to enquire,and guess what it as gone from £48+vat retail to £170.54+vat retail in less than 2 years should have Dick Turpins above the premises if you ask me fking robbers,must remember to look for the horse next time i drive past no credit crunch for Land Rover obviously.

[davvid]

I got one from clever trevor a couple of weeks ago.it was aout £80.

[TVRleigh_BBWR]

Is a bit of a joke, when Emerald do a new superior one for £23.00 http://www.emeraldm3d.com/em_pricing.html
So there is no need for them to be that price.

[Mark Adams]

TVRleigh_BBWR said:

Emerald do a new superior one

Your point about the price of parts is quite correct, and is unfortunately due to the pricing structure from Land Rover through to the franchised dealers.

The correct part number of the later oval connector TPS (Throttle Postition Sensor) version is ERR2263, and I happen to know that ACT have a couple in stock for £45 +postage +VAT.

The earlier round connector version is ETC8494, which is a horrendous £84 +VAT. Alternatively you can use the older ETC6443 (£59.50 +VAT) from the older 3.5 flapper 4CU. This is the same in all respects except that it has slots instead of holes for mounting, and will therefore need to be adjusted after fitting.

The Emerald part is only superior in price, not in terms of manufacturing technology or performance. Once you have cut a few open you'll see they are all pretty nasty (especially for the money). It also has a slightly different arc of rotation, which may cause late triggering of the 14CUX high/full load operation so I wouldn't advise using it with a 14CUX.

It is very important to use a good quality TPS on a system that relies entirely on this single component for metering, such as the Emerald. The 14CUX only uses the TPS for metering as a fall back in case of AFM failure, and has the luxury of comparing air consumption against throttle angle for plausability checks.

When a TPS is used with the Emerald as intended, the operating range is set in software so it doesn't matter about the operating arc. For my clients who do use throttle angle metering (throttle body installations), I am testing an optical TPS which should be wear and noise free. I'll keep you posted.

[GreenV8S]

Mark Adams said:

I am testing an optical TPS which should be wear and noise free. I'll keep you posted.

Now you're talking! Please do keep us posted.

[350Matt]

I can reccommend these if you want a tough pot

http://www.pennyandgiles.com/products/products.asp...

[aerospoke]

Probably the best you can get!

[rev-erend]

Mark Adams said:

TVRleigh_BBWR said:

Emerald do a new superior one

Your point about the price of parts is quite correct, and is unfortunately due to the pricing structure from Land Rover through to the franchised dealers.

The correct part number of the later oval connector TPS (Throttle Postition Sensor) version is ERR2263, and I happen to know that ACT have a couple in stock for £45 +postage +VAT.

The earlier round connector version is ETC8494, which is a horrendous £84 +VAT. Alternatively you can use the older ETC6443 (£59.50 +VAT) from the older 3.5 flapper 4CU. This is the same in all respects except that it has slots instead of holes for mounting, and will therefore need to be adjusted after fitting.

The Emerald part is only superior in price, not in terms of manufacturing technology or performance. Once you have cut a few open you'll see they are all pretty nasty (especially for the money). It also has a slightly different arc of rotation, which may cause late triggering of the 14CUX high/full load operation so I wouldn't advise using it with a 14CUX.

It is very important to use a good quality TPS on a system that relies entirely on this single component for metering, such as the Emerald. The 14CUX only uses the TPS for metering as a fall back in case of AFM failure, and has the luxury of comparing air consumption against throttle angle for plausability checks.

When a TPS is used with the Emerald as intended, the operating range is set in software so it doesn't matter about the operating arc. For my clients who do use throttle angle metering (throttle body installations), I am testing an optical TPS which should be wear and noise free. I'll keep you posted.

Nice to see you back on here Mark.

Hope you are well.

[addickted]

Mark Adams said:

Your point about the price of parts is quite correct, and is unfortunately due to the pricing structure from Land Rover through to the franchised dealers.

The correct part number of the later oval connector TPS (Throttle Postition Sensor) version is ERR2263, and I happen to know that ACT have a couple in stock for £45 +postage +VAT.

The 14CUX only uses the TPS for metering as a fall back in case of AFM failure, and has the luxury of comparing air consumption against throttle angle for plausability checks.

I am testing an optical TPS which should be wear and noise free. I'll keep you posted.

Hi Mark, you may remember me, see www.letherby.com theres a pic of you Sir with the TR you sorted which i still have. Anyway to the point, i also have a griff 500 which has the oval connector,i have purchased a new one from Paddock Spares, you advise the 14CUX uses the TPS as a fall back for AFM failure. If i disconnect the TPS the engine starts and will run/drive for a minute or so then cut out.Is the AFM defective or does the ECU require connection of the TPS? The reason i ask is that i was told the TPS does not need to be connected or is that for the older 14CU?

Cheers Mark