Griffs and trackdays?
Griffs and trackdays?
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culminator

Original Poster:

618 posts

238 months

Monday 8th June 2009
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Generally, how well do Griffs cope with the occasional track day? Do they tend to suffer from overheating, gearbox/clutch issues, brake fade etc. Or do they tend to cope quite well?

A bit of an open ended question really but all things being equal, some makes of car cope better than others...

Slacey

1,113 posts

243 months

Monday 8th June 2009
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Mine is pretty standard (ACT intake hoses the only real mod) and it's fine, I also compete in the Speed Championship and have yet to encounter any problems. If it's structurally sound and well maintained you shouldn't have any issues.

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Monday 8th June 2009
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culminator said:
Generally, how well do Griffs cope with the occasional track day? Do they tend to suffer from overheating, gearbox/clutch issues, brake fade etc. Or do they tend to cope quite well?

A bit of an open ended question really but all things being equal, some makes of car cope better than others...
It's where they thrive cool

Brakes can take a bit of a hammering if they're not in tip top condition...Good pads and discs and braided hoses, 5.1 fluid and they will be fine. smile

griffdude

1,930 posts

277 months

Monday 8th June 2009
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They go well & as yours has been geo'd by Guglielmi it should go round the twisties without too much drama.
Just the same tips re brakes & check the oil during the day.

ESDavey

713 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th June 2009
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Griff's are great on the track as long as you follow the standard advice. I do about 4 per year & think they are great ... you drive home with a real sense of "man & machine" ... well I do anyway !!

I prefer evening track sessions because 3 hrs is enough for most people.

Normal stuff includes oil, water spot on, tyre pressures (Front 24 Rear 26) but other run alot higher for the track, start slow, cool down final lap, pop the bonnet when in the pits, take track advice from the locals, research on youtube track layout, etc

Top tracks include : #1 Silverstone GP #2 Donnington #3 Cadwell #4 Oulton #5 Bedford

Final thought, dont be put off by the rain ... its better for the car as its cooler, lower speeds so engine, brakes, tyres get an easy time. Its better for you because you reach the limits sooner & learn faster !! Its a head thing

culminator

Original Poster:

618 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th June 2009
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Ok thanks guys, sounds like it should be fun. I'm not intending doing many but have always been to Croix in northern France with the 7 club. The car already has Nitrons and AP brakes, so should be good fun on the circuit.

Moto

1,283 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th June 2009
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Can't stress the oil level enough. You may use more than you expect during the day and therefore the level will drop, so you need to check and top up as required or during the lunch break. If the oil is a bit low, in high speed corners the oil can get forced over to the side of the sump and allow the oil pick up to take a gulp of air which can be bad news!

budd

407 posts

297 months

Tuesday 9th June 2009
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It all depends on how hard you intend to push the car on the day, but generaly if the car is in good shape to start with you'll have no problems, if there is anything that's not tip top condition or there's an underlying problem a trackday will probably revel it, the main thing is ensure the car is fully serviced up with fresh good quaility oil (I use Motul 10/60)and fresh brake fluid (again I use Motul their RB600 is excellent fluid) also consider that track miles are much harder on the car than road miles so it's worth adjusting service intervels to reflect this.

350Matt

3,897 posts

308 months

Tuesday 9th June 2009
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If you've got a pre-cat then I'd recommend fitting the larger brakes either ones off the 500 (260mm) or the popular 283mm cossie discs with Grandad cosworth or Mondeo v6 calipers. as a recnt trackday with mine left the middle pedal somewhat wanting shall we say and this is with pagid pads and dot 5.1 fluid...

EzyGriff

116 posts

313 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Brakes were the weakest link on mine - pretty much useless after one lap (I now have Hi Spec 4-pots on the front but haven't tried them on a track yet). Also had to buy bolt-on exhaust silencers to meet the noise regs. Apart from that, excellent fun!

Mark (UB)

2,312 posts

208 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Crap, I wouldn't even bother tracking it. wink

Big Ashy

492 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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ESDavey said:
Griff's are great on the track as long as you follow the standard advice. I do about 4 per year & think they are great ... you drive home with a real sense of "man & machine" ... well I do anyway !!

I prefer evening track sessions because 3 hrs is enough for most people.

Normal stuff includes oil, water spot on, tyre pressures (Front 24 Rear 26) but other run alot higher for the track, start slow, cool down final lap, pop the bonnet when in the pits, take track advice from the locals, research on youtube track layout, etc

Top tracks include : #1 Silverstone GP #2 Donnington #3 Cadwell #4 Oulton #5 Bedford

Final thought, dont be put off by the rain ... its better for the car as its cooler, lower speeds so engine, brakes, tyres get an easy time. Its better for you because you reach the limits sooner & learn faster !! Its a head thing
I can vouch for that! thumbup


ESDavey

713 posts

248 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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One thing I forgot to mention is changing down gears .......

The Griff has a big engine & light so if you change down a gear too soon, the torque will lock the rear tyres with potential dire results (try 5th to 4th along the back straight at Bedford before the chicane ... only the once !).

I suggest you get good at heel-and-toe (loads on the www) and/or at worst, leave your change down to the last secounds. In the wet, this is more pronounced.

Enjoy !

Troogly

81 posts

265 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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.... in addition to everything else, would add, when you pull in and switch after your session leave the hand brake OFF. The brakes can get pretty hot.

Troogly

81 posts

265 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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.... in addition to everything else, would add, when you pull in and switch after your session leave the hand brake OFF. The brakes can get pretty hot.

culminator

Original Poster:

618 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Thanks guys.

Having done quite a few track days in Caterhams, know all about heel and toeing etc. I'm not intending to do that many with the Griff but handy to know they don't suffer general issues on track days.