Cat C, whats it worth, Griff 500
Cat C, whats it worth, Griff 500
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alex200mph

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510 posts

287 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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Whats this worth?
95 Griffith 500 Cat C but repaired, 33K, PAS, met blue with mag interior, 500 plate.
I have seen the car for sale at £11K. I dont think its worth that much at this present time, anybody got any ideas?

Cheers
Alex

mustard

6,992 posts

267 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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Half the price of a good one!

_DJ_

5,047 posts

276 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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My Griff was a mint '96 with the same miles but without PAS. Mine sold for 16,750 (which was a good deal because it was a great car). I figure that one would have been a similar value, without the history. So are we saying it's only worth 8,875? From experience, they never seem to sell for as little as 1/2 price. I'd say that at 10k you'd have yourself a good deal.

DJ

mustard

6,992 posts

267 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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Look at it another way.... how much less would you want to pay for a previously damaged version of yours?.... i'd certainly want it a good few grand cheaper!

and then theres the hassles of selling it again.... someone who is prepared to buy a Cat C is looking for some serious value for money!

jigs

1,840 posts

272 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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Depends on what extent and standard of repairs were carried out - new chassis? new body? new suspension? etc. It could be like a new car or a badly bodged lash-up.

mustard

6,992 posts

267 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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No matter whats been done to it, always going to have the stigma of being CAT C, if it was a bog up you just wouldnt buy it, needs to be properly done to stand a fighting chance of reselling

burriana500

16,556 posts

276 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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see my reply to this same topic on an earlier thread:

er... and you think that's expensive?

Bearing in mind that the going price for a 'clean' one of that year would be around £15k at least and that you can take off, say 20% for the fact that it is on the register, that makes it £12k.... I'd say £11k for a 500 Griff if it's in nice nick is a bloody bargain.

If you have any worries get it 'Autoline" checked, this will give it a clean bill of health and also goes on the register that it has been checked as 100% road worthy. They do a thorough job and the nod in the trade is that if it passes Autoline then it's probably straighter than it came out the factory!

I bet a lot of people miss otherwise great cars because of some stupid stigma - if you buy it cheap, then you can sell it cheap when the time comes.

tweety

829 posts

281 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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How do you go about getting a car 'Autoline' checked? Anyone got a phone number and rough cost ?

Cheers,Al.

burriana500

16,556 posts

276 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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I have the number at home somewhere, but if you can get in touch with Rob Ingleby on 07799 142860 (he advertises in Sprint) he may know.

joospeed

4,473 posts

300 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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good sensible advice this, sounds like a bargain to me .. might have a gander at it myself in fact ..


burriana500 said:
see my reply to this same topic on an earlier thread:

er... and you think that's expensive?

Bearing in mind that the going price for a 'clean' one of that year would be around £15k at least and that you can take off, say 20% for the fact that it is on the register, that makes it £12k.... I'd say £11k for a 500 Griff if it's in nice nick is a bloody bargain.

If you have any worries get it 'Autoline" checked, this will give it a clean bill of health and also goes on the register that it has been checked as 100% road worthy. They do a thorough job and the nod in the trade is that if it passes Autoline then it's probably straighter than it came out the factory!

I bet a lot of people miss otherwise great cars because of some stupid stigma - if you buy it cheap, then you can sell it cheap when the time comes.

shnozz

29,895 posts

293 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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if its been autoligned I dont see the problem. My last car, an S3, was Cat C. Meant I got it for a bargain price and the paintwork was mint (probably a respray following repair).

I sold it through PH at another bargain price to a happy customer with no problem whatsoever.

If you pay the right price to begin with, I dont see what all the fuss is about. £11k for a rarish car with low miles. Bargain I would say if its in good condition. Keep it a couple of years and flog it having lost sweet FA. Alternatively, keep it long term and you paid less than a non pranged car in the first place. Cant lose.

_DJ_

5,047 posts

276 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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It's a good colour combination, looks great on the picture, is a late (December) 95N and being sold by a dealer. I don't think it'll be there for too long!

900T-R

20,406 posts

279 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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I look at it this way. I am going to buy a TVR to drive, not to put in the garage, polish all weekend and only take out on sunny Sunday mornings for a leisurely drive to Tesco's.

Having been here for a good few months now, I'd wager to say that there's a fair chance I'll fall off the road backwards or get rearended by White Van Man sooner or later. I hope it doesn't happen, but it seems that a lot of you that run their cars on a regular basis have endured that fate at some point. It doesn't need to be a big shunt to make it a Cat C, given the prices of TVR body panels and the work needed to make the repair a pukka one. A clumsy low-speed affair is all it takes.

Then, I'll have the thing repaired, my low milage, non-crashed, pampered pet suddendly has the same 'previuosly crashed' stigma and I lose out big time even though my car may be better after the repair than before!

So why narrow my choice down to the few garage queen type of cars out there and pay way over the odds, when I know my car will clock up a fair amount of miles, get stone chipped, scratched from folks who don't know how to park, get soaking wet and has a higher likeliness of getting damaged at some point? (Ever talked to lease company folks who sell ex-lease/fleet/rental cars and asked whether the cars are 'damage free'? He'll likely tell you that almost ANY car has had some kind of damage in it's previous life. That's modern day traffic to you).

I already have one car that I spend far more time tinkering with than driving it, I don't need another. I'll take one that's been repaired properly and save a bundle, thanksverymuch. It's not like I buy my cars to sell them on anyways. If it's a good'un, it probably stays indefinitely.

heliox

450 posts

284 months

Friday 30th January 2004
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[quote=900T-R]
It doesn't need to be a big shunt to make it a Cat C, given the prices of TVR body panels and the work needed to make the repair a pukka one. A clumsy low-speed affair is all it takes.

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Quite right,I managed to get a set of Estoril alloys off a written off Cat C last summer,damage was to the front wing and the windscreen was smashed, unbelievable that it was a write off at all.

h

iain alexander

1 posts

269 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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similar story to quincy,my griff is a 96p,bought 12 months ago for 12k,fsh,17000 miles,pas.
i saw the car before being repaired by the friend i got it off,front wing,drivers door,no chassis damage.
The factor which declared it catC was the cost of repainting it purple with silver chips in paint!
A similar car advertised in sprint/tvr dealer last year
was around 20K so i think i got a bargain and i know the car was repaired properly.
Get it bought before someone else snaps it up

T88CAN

3,474 posts

279 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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Mustard is right in most respects the general rule in the motor trade is "if a car is showing it`s half book"
and as only black book on disk gives TVR values some one with access to this system could give a accurate trade value, Tony( ex Sales manager 12 yrs)

mustard

6,992 posts

267 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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T88CAN one point that got raised which has a slightly different bearing to 'normal' car so I might concede to a TVR being a little higher than the rule

burrina500 said:
They do a thorough job and the nod in the trade is that if it passes Autoline then it's probably straighter than it came out the factory!



T88CAN

3,474 posts

279 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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mustard said:
T88CAN one point that got raised which has a slightly different bearing to 'normal' car so I might concede to a TVR being a little higher than the rule


burrina500 said:
They do a thorough job and the nod in the trade is that if it passes Autoline then it's probably straighter than it came out the factory!





Unfortunatly TVR don`t have the best reputation out side of these pages due to the trade being scared of the things so i think half book is about right? Ive offered to underwrite a TVR for a couple of ex colleges over the past two years unfortunatly they have never came my way how ever i have a bid on a 92 pre cat Griff 4.3 under offer

HarryW

15,794 posts

291 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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T88CAN said:

............how ever i have a bid on a 92 pre cat Griff 4.3 under offer

Very interesting that Tony, hope it comes off, poss the best of the Griffs, particulary as 'the classic' of the breed IMHO.
Hows the Tuscan at the mo

Harry

pigpen

262 posts

272 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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Couldn't agree more about getting value for money on a Cat C. Paid just over 9 for my 95M 4L Chim last March and it's never been a problem. Having seen similar advertised at the time up to 16k I guess it wasn't far a way from half. Thing is if you spend on it - & I've probably spent about 3, you'll never get that back when it's time for it to go. But there again, you don't buy a TVR to get a return, do you, only in smiles per mile! That Griff sounds a winner. Go for it, if you haven't already!

Mike