K&N filters? Yes or No, & Chassis rub down
K&N filters? Yes or No, & Chassis rub down
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whiteheadr

Original Poster:

17 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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Has anyone used a K&N Filter on a pre-cat 4.0 Griff. If so, were there any noticiable improvements and what filter did you use etc.
Also, on similar subject what in anyones opinion is the cheapest worthwhile mod to such a car.
Finally, my car's chassis could do with a rub down and re-paint etc. Any recommedations of people to use in the Cambs area and likly costs etc.
As ever, thanks for the info from all who respond. In previous lives I have had Caterhams, Marcos, Fast Fords etc but no other forums are a patch on this Griff site, bravo PH's.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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Filter will make no difference except it is reuseable. No such thing as a cheap mod for these cars. What do you want to do?

Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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Its more than a Griff site. Have a look around the other forums.
Dont go in general gassing though, you may not come out alive!

Surely better air filters will make some difference Steve?
Having said that, I dont know what is fitted as standard.

burriana500

16,556 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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DustyC said:

Having said that, I dont know what is fitted as standard.



A really gooey oily one by all accounts - I haven't dared put my hand in there yet

edited to say - on the principle, if it ain't broke don't touch it... and no-one sees it anyway!

>> Edited by burriana500 on Tuesday 10th February 12:53

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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If its a really gooey oily one then shouldnt it be cleaned and re-oiled frequently?
The oil is to catch the crap I take it?

My Granddad told me how he used to race army jeeps around with modified enigines. For the air filter they used some thin sponge dunked in oil and found it gave better results than their other methods (ie quickest and it still did the job!)

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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DustyC said:


Surely better air filters will make some difference Steve?
Having said that, I dont know what is fitted as standard.

Yes they make a big difference to the guys you buy them from as it gives them a bit more bread on the table but on a Griff... no more power compared to the standard fit.

burriana500

16,556 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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DustyC said:
If its a really gooey oily one then shouldnt it be cleaned and re-oiled frequently?


No, they are meant to be oily and gooey, and yes, to catch the crap - I am led to believe that the standard filter needs little maintenance. Please correct me if I'm wrong... does that mean I'm going to have to get me hands oily and gooey

IPAddis

2,514 posts

313 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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Isn't it the case that there's no difference against a brand new standard filter but that the K&N a) resists clogging with dirt and b) is washable and reuseable?

Ian A.

wixer

373 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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You can clean the standard filter. Wash it in a bucket of soap and water and then, when clean, smear engine oil over it. You'll be surprised what crap comes out when you wash it !!

TomPob

280 posts

313 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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I bought one...hasn't made any difference...Could be cos its still in the box...
Going to have the ACT bits fitted, so the K & N seemed a good idea as well..

2 sheds

2,529 posts

313 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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Fitting a K&N filter is a bit like fitting stainless exhaust or silicone hoses, its meant to last forever, so if you are keeping the car for any length of time, worth while. the standared foam ones get clogged very quickly otherwise agreed no power benefit.
Tim

v8 racing

2,064 posts

280 months

Tuesday 10th February 2004
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short and sweet i totally agree with 2 sheds and shpub

Griffer

271 posts

311 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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The standard filter is a Pipercross. You can buy a maintenance kit for these which consists of 500ml of cleaning agent concentrate and 75ml of what is grandly descibed as Dirt Retention Additive in a spray mister, which is the sticky stuff.There is enough to do the filter several times and restores the filter to as new, mine was about £12.00 a couple of years ago from a carb and injection specialist.
Griffer

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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If the standard one is piper corss then I can see why there is no point in upgrading to a K&N.

But whater about the benifits in upgrading to a stainless steel Blitz type air filter? The gains they suggest are huge. (Meant to sound good too).

burriana500

16,556 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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DustyC said:

what about upgrading to a stainless steel Blitz type air filter?... (Meant to sound good too).


ah... now I'm interested... a bit of induction roar at the front to go with the outbound roar at the back

Had a series 2 XJ6 years ago and stuck some nice K&Ns on that (at least you could see em so there was some aesthetic benefit too) and that sounded lovely when it was given some boot

icamm

2,153 posts

289 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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Whilst they argue over air filters

The costs for your chassis depends what it actually needs. If it just needs a bit of a scrape and paint then the costs won't be too high. If it needs a full strip and paint then budget about £4k plus another £1k for all the bits that will need replacing whilst it's in pieces.

Don't forget to waxoyl it afterwards (or there is another treatment but I can't remember the name - search the waxoyling threads and you'll find it).

Baldy67

301 posts

268 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Which air filter is the best for performance for a Griff then, the K&N or the Blitz?

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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As Sh, 2 Sheds and V8 racing.

KN (as fitted on mine ie early cylinder filter not panel type)etc are just replacements for an already upgraded item. any gains would be offered against a Rover filter NOT Pipercross. As no Ram air effect is possible without major fabrication work your fine with standard Griff stuff...

However!

the main advantage of the KN item is its size. being slightly smaller diameter, careful positioning allows air to circulate at speed giving correct airflow into the air track. make sure it is set back from the hole in the front to allow air in so it does not draw hot air in from the radiator/engine bay. additional plate/deflectors help this particularly if you replace the crap curved TVR one!

none of this will be seen on the rolling road ofcourse, but will help atain the R/R figure on the road.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Wol is going into Joospeed in a couple of weeks for his 6k service, also to have all the wishbones off, blasted and repainted with Frosts POR-15. Developed for the oil rigs, it's supposed to be slightly flexible and salt proof. I'll report more later.

starmist

1,052 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Worked well on my chassis. Very tough, but more of a battleship grey than the standard lighter grey.