Bugger - now I have to remove the inlet manifold!

[Colin RedGriff]

Was working on getting the rockers replaced since a couple of pads have dropped off; and I've managed to knock the number 4 exhaust pushrod on the odffside and it's fallen down inside the cylinder head. Tried to extract it but it's not coming out.

So it looks like I need to remove the inlet manifolds and valley cover to get to it.

Do I need to remove all the PAS and alternator stuff on the front of the engine?

I guess it'll give me an opportunity to check the cam shaft but a bit p*ss*d off.

Any other tips to ease this work?

[Pupp]

Can't you get one of those magnet tipped telescopic probes onto it to lift it enough to manipulate through a gap and out? Even if you just lift it enough to 'lasso' the end with some decent slip-knotted string, I'd have thought it possible to wriggle it back up and out with some dexterity and plenty of light (and maybe a third hand if someone can help)... usual pitfall is that folk tug the rods out and bring the lifters out of their bores too due to the stiction between the two

[chris52]

Colin RedGriff said:

Do I need to remove all the PAS and alternator stuff on the front of the engine?


Any other tips to ease this work?

No the alternator,PAS pipes etc don't need to be removed. If you do end up doing the job make sure you get a ported Valley gasket (V8D do a good one) as the standard Landrover one will restrict the air flow and loose you power. Also if you are going this far you may aswelll check all the pre-loads.

Hope this helps Chris

[Colin RedGriff]

Pupp said:

Can't you get one of those magnet tipped telescopic probes onto it to lift it enough to manipulate through a gap and out? Even if you just lift it enough to 'lasso' the end with some decent slip-knotted string, I'd have thought it possible to wriggle it back up and out with some dexterity and plenty of light (and maybe a third hand if someone can help)... usual pitfall is that folk tug the rods out and bring the lifters out of their bores too due to the stiction between the two

I did manage it with one of the other pushrod but this one seems to have dropped right in can't even see it.



Chris - thsnks for the tip on the gasket; yes I'll be doing the pre load.

I decided to bite the bullet and I've got the inlets off now. Valley cover next. Looks like the valley gasket has been leaking, there's a pool of oil sat on top of the bellhousing. Which explains the drips of oil I've been finding recently. So that will be another little job fixed too.


Some of the inlet manifold bolts seemed very loose which is a little worrying

Edited by Colin RedGriff on Saturday 10th July 20:33

[spend]

If its gone that far it may well be in the sump, at any rate DO NOT turn the engine at all.

[Colin RedGriff]

thanks - it's in the area with the followers I just can't get to it. I can reach it with a magnetic pick up tool but just can't move it to somewhere that I can extract it.

But I'm not going to turn the engine at all until I can see where everything is.

[spend]

When you get the valley gasket off take great care to mask the valley so that you can clean up all the mating surfaces without getting crud in the engine.

Cutting the old valley gasket up and taping in the valley is my favourite, and kitchen roll stuffed down the inlet ports. Paraffin / thinners on a cloth helps cleaning silicone off the corner seals.

[Marty V8]

chris52 said:

No the alternator,PAS pipes etc don't need to be removed. If you do end up doing the job make sure you get a ported Valley gasket (V8D do a good one) as the standard Landrover one will restrict the air flow and loose you power. Also if you are going this far you may aswelll check all the pre-loads.

Hope this helps Chris

Excuse my ignorance - Ive stripped a 'normal' 3.5litre before so know what a standard valley gasket is, but what is a ported valley gasket and are there any photos available?

cheers

Marty

[Colin RedGriff]

spend said:

When you get the valley gasket off take great care to mask the valley so that you can clean up all the mating surfaces without getting crud in the engine.

Cutting the old valley gasket up and taping in the valley is my favourite, and kitchen roll stuffed down the inlet ports. Paraffin / thinners on a cloth helps cleaning silicone off the corner seals.

Top tip - thanks - It's looking very cruddy at the moment. I've not removed the valley gasket yet so I'll probably stuff the inlet ports now before I remove it.

New valley gasket, seals and injector o'rings coming from tvr power overnight. I'll take some pictures and post up some info as I proceed.

[chris52]

Marty V8 said:

chris52 said:

No the alternator,PAS pipes etc don't need to be removed. If you do end up doing the job make sure you get a ported Valley gasket (V8D do a good one) as the standard Landrover one will restrict the air flow and loose you power. Also if you are going this far you may aswelll check all the pre-loads.

Hope this helps Chris

Excuse my ignorance - Ive stripped a 'normal' 3.5litre before so know what a standard valley gasket is, but what is a ported valley gasket and are there any photos available?

cheers

Marty

They are basically the same but have had the port holes increased in size to match the ports on the TVR engine. You can do this yourself with a standard Landrover gasket and a dremmel to make sure they fit well. I got mine from V8D and must say it was a great fit with pretty much no overlap on the ports.IIFC they do both the compasite and tin gaskets.
Its more of a port matched valley gasket than a ported one.

Hope this helps
Chris

[Marty V8]

chris52 said:

They are basically the same but have had the port holes increased in size to match the ports on the TVR engine. You can do this yourself with a standard Landrover gasket and a dremmel to make sure they fit well. I got mine from V8D and must say it was a great fit with pretty much no overlap on the ports.IIFC they do both the compasite and tin gaskets.
Its more of a port matched valley gasket than a ported one.

Hope this helps
Chris

Of course - larger ports. Stupid of me. Thanks for the explaination. I'll get my hat - the one with the big 'D' on it, and go and stand in the corner for a while.

Cheers

Marty