Removal of power steering rack
Removal of power steering rack
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roseytvr

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1,790 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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What a major PITA this is!!
Can anyone tell me what size the heads are on the nuts holding the hydraulic pipes in are meant to be??
Both 5/8ths and 16mm have play and are rounding the brass head. Have soak them in Plus Gas but still showing now signs of moving. Looking like a pipe cutting job and mole grips when its out. Any tips appreciated.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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You *can* get the rack out with the hard lines still in if you move the track arms and rotate it judiciously but it's bloody tight! Slide everything as far as it'll go into the O/S arch, rotate and lift it out through the gap vacated by the Y piece.

I can find the size of the spanner tomorrow if you're still stuck.

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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I bought a used rack and one of the lines was damaged - I guess from removing the rack. I've currently repaired it with a compression joint, but its weeping. Can you get those unions out of the rack easily?
They seemed pretty soft to me whem I tried to move them, and the nuts bloody tight.

roseytvr

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Thanks man - didnt particularly want to take the Y piece off unless I have to. Have managed to bolloc*ks one of the hard pipes already! Pressumably any hydraulic pipe place can knock these up/

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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You can use braided lines, I've seen it on a Cerb. Local hydraulic supplier should be able to help though.

I've done it four times at least and though it seems to be a faff you might as well take the Y out as it's quicker in the long run.

Have I mentioned Kiley Clinton and fitting an ATQ filter in the return line yet???? biggrin

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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BliarOut said:
You *can* get the rack out with the hard lines still in if you move the track arms and rotate it judiciously but it's bloody tight! Slide everything as far as it'll go into the O/S arch, rotate and lift it out through the gap vacated by the Y piece.

I can find the size of the spanner tomorrow if you're still stuck.
Always had mine out through the nearside arch, still a right PITA!

Will be coming out for one more time and giving it to the Clinton guys.

Failing a fix, pass me the matches irked !

Del 203

12,728 posts

278 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Hi Rob wavey Didn't expect to find you in here when i saw the thread title hehe

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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I'm saying 'nowt Del wavey

HCM, I was where you are now before I found Kiley CLinton biggrin

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Good call Sonny biggrin

Pasco

6,652 posts

257 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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roseytvr said:
Thanks man - didnt particularly want to take the Y piece off unless I have to. Have managed to bolloc*ks one of the hard pipes already! Pressumably any hydraulic pipe place can knock these up/
Hi Ian take the Y piece out its a ten minute job and you will need the room yes

I have some Flair spanners if you need them wink

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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And luggage straps to pull it all back in place.

I'm sure I did a guide with photos once.

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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A couple of those carpenter type cramps, (mastic gun type), are useful to hold the large connection together.

Gatecrasher

29 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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The rack comes out easily with the Y piece removed but the solid pipes have to come off to remove the rack with the Y piece in place. I've done both. It's much easier to take the Y piece out. The rack can then be removed and replaced from above.

If you're sending the rack for a rebuild then some places do a better job than others! I had a bit of a nightmare with mine.

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Gatecrasher said:
The rack comes out easily with the Y piece removed but the solid pipes have to come off to remove the rack with the Y piece in place. I've done both. It's much easier to take the Y piece out. The rack can then be removed and replaced from above.

If you're sending the rack for a rebuild then some places do a better job than others! I had a bit of a nightmare with mine.
Out of interest, who satisfactory rebuilt yours?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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KC yes

ETA

KC make two mods to the rack, not just rebuild it. They machine an o ring groove in the boss so it's not relying on threadlock to seal, I've been asked to keep the other mod off the forums but you can pm me if you're interested.

Edited by BliarOut on Friday 1st October 08:29

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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This is the third time I have taken a rack out of this car.

Disconnect column,
" all pipes including copper link pipes,
Release ARB, from drop links and mounting brackets,
Twist and pull, twist and wiggle and remove rack through nearside arch.

The above works for me, 2 1/2 hours of misery.

It is now lieing on the garage floor like a dead thing, when it has been repaired and replaced, I never want to see it again curse

Off to the Clinton boys on Monday, can't wait to see the back of it!

Johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Done mine 4 times. Clintons did the last one and it has been absolutely superb since, tighter, no leaks, no usage of fluid and slop gone . . .

In-line filter in place and now no fears of it popping again . .. top guys.

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Johno said:
Done mine 4 times. Clintons did the last one and it has been absolutely superb since, tighter, no leaks, no usage of fluid and slop gone . . .

In-line filter in place and now no fears of it popping again . .. top guys.
That's what I want to here, yeseree!

roseytvr

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

207 months

Sunday 3rd October 2010
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thanks Guys - dont think I need a rebuild but know where to go when I do!! Y piece out was the way forward.
Pasco - good to see your still learking around, any progress or is it spring now?

Pasco

6,652 posts

257 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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roseytvr said:
thanks Guys - dont think I need a rebuild but know where to go when I do!! Y piece out was the way forward.
Pasco - good to see your still learking around, any progress or is it spring now?
YHM Buddy