Question for the electrics gurus
Question for the electrics gurus
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Barreti

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6,689 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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A few years ago I took wires from the MIL bulbs for the indicators and put LED repeaters just above the steering wheel cowl, so I have a pair of these to remind me my indicators havent self cancelled (not that it does any ruddy good, I'm constantly being flashed for having an indicator on)
As I'm about to send my dash away for veneering I'd like to put a single LED higher up into the dash. So how would I wire the LED to both repeaters without causing problems.

Or would it be easier to put 2 LEDs in there ?

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Done this on mine Ian, just tap into the turn indicators already in the dash(display) and couple them through two diodes to the LED you want to light. Ground the other side of the LED and bob is your fathers brother.

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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You could get all nautical & have a green/red tri-led then it'll flash orange with the hazards hehe

Barreti

Original Poster:

6,689 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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spend said:
You could get all nautical & have a green/red tri-led then it'll flash orange with the hazards hehe
As someone who is colour blind thats only much for the next owner Dave.

Ant, do you have two LEDs on your dashboard then?

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Barreti said:
spend said:
You could get all nautical & have a green/red tri-led then it'll flash orange with the hazards hehe
As someone who is colour blind thats only much for the next owner Dave.

Ant, do you have two LEDs on your dashboard then?
No Ian, just one green one, below the ignition LED.

Also removed the two turn indicators from the diplay thing. Shortened it and centralised it.

Barreti

Original Poster:

6,689 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Sounds like I need a diode on each circuit leading to the LED then.

Next question - and I really do apologise for this in advance - but what the feck is a diode - like a resistor ?
Do they sell different flavours and if so what do I ask for.

I have a Maplin near work so picking something up from there is easy.

Thanks for your help Ant.

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Barreti said:
Sounds like I need a diode on each circuit leading to the LED then.

Next question - and I really do apologise for this in advance - but what the feck is a diode - like a resistor ?
Do they sell different flavours and if so what do I ask for.

I have a Maplin near work so picking something up from there is easy.

Thanks for your help Ant.
Just ask for a couple of 1 amp diodes.

Basically, a diode only allows current to flow one way, so imagine the two indicator inputs to the LED, the diodes stop the current flowing to the N/S indicators when the O/S are flashing and vice versa.

-Pete-

2,914 posts

205 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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I'd just go into Maplin and ask them. 1N4001's are 24p and are overkill, but will do the job. You'll need a resistor to limit the current to the LED. They'll also sell you an LED bezel which will help you mount it. I reckon it'll cost you less than £1.50

Barreti

Original Poster:

6,689 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Thanks guys.

I already have the existing resisted LEDs I could reuse but I might go mad and buy a LED with a polished bezel.

I'm at risk of spending more than £2 here. Spend will take my Yorkshire passport off me next time he sees me biggrin

Edited by Barreti on Wednesday 12th January 22:12

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Barreti said:
Thanks guys.

I already have the existing resisted LEDs I could reuse but I might go mad and buy a LED with a polished bezel.

I'm at risk of spending more than £2 here. Spend will take my Yorkshire passport off me next time he sees me biggrin

Edited by Barreti on Wednesday 12th January 22:12
You are not at risk of breaking into that £2 coin you have been coveting........

In fact you won't use all of that 50pence coin.

Relax Ian, not much money spent !

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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You are allowed to spend as much you like at Maplins or Farnells Barty wink Its all good brass coming back home from you sarvern pimps we send out to swell the home coffers hehe

3024E

483 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Barreti,


I fitted a small piezzo buzzer and hid it in the steering cowling, its about the size of a fruit pastel

http://www.maplin.co.uk/wire-ended-piezo-buzzer-32...


Get one bought, and i know thats a dirty word for a yorkshire man.

Watch out for the Yorkshire police they may arrest you for breaking into a fiver!!!!!



Andy

Barreti

Original Poster:

6,689 posts

266 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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rofl

Aha, I've already got piezo buzzers, one on each circuit behind the speakers in the rear bulkhead and wired into the indicators in the boot.
But I do like the idea of having it in the cowl Andy, can you hear it well in there?

How the hell am I going to wire all this?

+ve from Left indicator to diode to piezo to +ve LED
+ve from Right indicator to diode to piezo to +ve LED
-ve from somewhere behind the dash to piezo to -ve LED

Right?

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Barreti said:
rofl

Aha, I've already got piezo buzzers, one on each circuit behind the speakers in the rear bulkhead and wired into the indicators in the boot.
But I do like the idea of having it in the cowl Andy, can you hear it well in there?

How the hell am I going to wire all this?

+ve from Left indicator to diode to piezo to +ve LED
+ve from Right indicator to diode to piezo to +ve LED
-ve from somewhere behind the dash to piezo to -ve LED

Right?
Ian, with a green LED under the ignition LED you wont need a buzzer. KISS

BrianMillar

192 posts

234 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Sorry if I have missed something here, but, why not try to fix the cause for the indicators not self-cancelling?

The self cancelling mechanism is normally a collar on the shaft of the steering column with a lug on it that contacts one of two arms on the indicator stalk.

Last time I came across this problem (although not on a TVR) it was that the collar had split and was free to spin on the shaft a 50p part solved the issue.

While you have the dash off, and presumably the steering wheel off it should be relatively easy to check this first.


Barreti

Original Poster:

6,689 posts

266 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Thanks for the idea and solution Brian.
The indicators do self cancel, but only when I have applied more than about 1/3 of a turn of the steering wheel.

I know its my driving style, because I make every effort to smooth out and straight line corners and especially roundabouts, but the downside is the indicators often not self cancelling.

I installed the existing LEDs after someone pulled out of a left hand side junction near a roundabout because they saw my left indicator and thought I was going into the road they were coming out of.
That I was probably doing 50mph didn't seem to register eek

Edited by Barreti on Friday 14th January 07:45

Green Meanie

484 posts

247 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Hi Ant,
You cut up my Warning light symbol paneleeknono,after all my good work hehe


tut tut tut
Green Meanie

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

273 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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You're not going around corners fast enough. If you hang the tail out the opposite-lock will cancel the indicators!

3024E

483 posts

214 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Green Meanie said:
Hi Ant,
You cut up my Warning light symbol paneleeknono,after all my good work hehe


tut tut tut
Green Meanie
Craigs after you now Ant...........shame on you, all that hard work as well

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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3024E said:
Green Meanie said:
Hi Ant,
You cut up my Warning light symbol paneleeknono,after all my good work hehe


tut tut tut
Green Meanie
Craigs after you now Ant...........shame on you, all that hard work as well
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