TVR Cerbera Calipers (CP5200) on a Griff?

[MPoxon]

Out of interest has anyone fitted or considered fitting TVR Cerbera Calipers to a Griff before? I have seen a number of Griffs with the Tuscan brake upgrade (CP6600) but not the cerb brakes which purely from an aesthetic point of view I think I prefer.


image from tvrcerbera.co.uk

From what I understand the Cerb calipers are TVR Branded AP Racing CP5200 calipers.
http://www.apracing.com/info/products.asp?product=...

Clearly these wont fit under the standard 15" wheels but for those with 16"s on the front or larger aftermarket wheels...

[Hoover.]

what did Clivef fit ?

[MPoxon]

Hoover. said:

what did Clivef fit ?

I seem to remember Clive fitting TVR branded to his Griff back in the day. I am not sure whether they were the CP6600 Tuscan versions or the CP5200 Cerb versions.

[Precat]

I have used these TVR/AP 5200 calipers with 300 x 28mm discs. I run 16-inch Spiders all round.
I do have photos, but I don't know how to post pictures. I have used this combination successfully for seven years. Hope this helps

[magpies]

resurrected to add that I have fitted the AP5200s to 283mm discs on my S1 and they DO fit under 15" wheels although I did fit 15mm spacers and changed to longer studs.

[900T-R]

Don't see why the woudn't fit under 15s with a 283 mm Cossie disc, either. I've been mucking about with one such disc and a six pot Tarox 32.6 caliper on the inside of a 15" OZ split rim in my living room a month or two ago and there seems to be plenty of space, can't imagine the AP caliper being so much bigger/thicker that the wheel would need to be spaced out on a Chim/Griff...

[spend]

The calipers are hardly ever the issue, its the rotor vs wheel size that's generally the problem. Just check the ranges of disk size that caliper + pads support ~ it's all there on the AP web site you just have to do some sums and measurements.

It's Pascos Griff that had 5200 series calipers with 330mm(ish) rotors, which may have been confused with Cliff's upgrades (around same time ~ many moons ago now) BTW

[900T-R]

spend said:

The calipers are hardly ever the issue, its the rotor vs wheel size that's generally the problem. Just check the ranges of disk size that caliper + pads support ~ it's all there on the AP web site you just have to do some sums and measurements.

To further muddle the waters, I was assuming we're talking about the 'four bolt' CP5200 calipers as per most 4.2 Cerbies that have 291 mm discs as standard and don't really support anything bigger than 304 mm, while the later 'six bolt' version IIRC has a range of 300-330 mm for disc diameters.
I'll have to look at my scrap pair of early Cerb calipers (one has a crack in the casting at the bleeding nipple, the other seems to be rebuildable) a bit closer but I'd think they'd be OK for the 283 discs alebeit a bit widely spaced for the 24 mm thickness (the 291 mm Cerbie discs are 28 mm).

[BarnFind]

900T-R said:

To further muddle the waters, I was assuming we're talking about the 'four bolt' CP5200 calipers as per most 4.2 Cerbies that have 291 mm discs as standard and don't really support anything bigger than 304 mm, while the later 'six bolt' version IIRC has a range of 300-330 mm for disc diameters.
I'll have to look at my scrap pair of early Cerb calipers (one has a crack in the casting at the bleeding nipple, the other seems to be rebuildable) a bit closer but I'd think they'd be OK for the 283 discs alebeit a bit widely spaced for the 24 mm thickness (the 291 mm Cerbie discs are 28 mm).

When i was researching the CP upgrade,i was led to believe cracked nipples were a common problem on the CP5200 so went for the CP6000 calipers

[Belchy]

Hi all
Hope this helps....


http://m.wikihow.com/Heal-a-Cracked-Nipple-when-Br...




Belchy

[neal1980]

I fitted some to mine when I did the body off a few years back with 330mm discs...

[chrispitman]

Been awhile since I did mine but I think the CP6000 have piston boot seals ie road use where as the cp5200 are a race caliper and don't have these so over time can cause corrosion on the pistons.

[Precat]

I ran the AP TVR 5200 4-pot calipers with 300mm discs within 16-ich rims for nine years, this included many track days and euro tours. Never had any problems with that set.





I have now upgraded to AP 6-pot calipers with 322mm discs within the same 16-inch rims
I only changed the set-up to set how they compare.

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From a functional point of view the 4-pot set-up was more than adequate.
It's early days (1800miles) The 6-pots feel more progressive when applied, compared to the 4-pot setup.
This is with the same brake pad materal, though the 6-pot brake pad area is larger than the 4-pot brake pad area.

[Incognegro]

I will soon have 4bolt speed 6 set up available. 304discs and bells for a TVR Cerbera. Will also let the braided hoses go and CL pads (discs, pads and bells will have had no more than 4.5k miles). Painted black with red TVR logo

pics to come once bt sort out my BB

Edited to add pics, PM me if interested

Edited by Incognegro on Tuesday 13th October 17:23

[broster]

Hi all, does anyone know the full AP part number for these? or an equivalent AP number