RR Sport advice needed.
RR Sport advice needed.
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cuda

Original Poster:

468 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Always wanted one - so going to get one now - but which one to get?

Supercharged 4.2l or standard petrol engine (what size is it?)? Diesel V6 or V8? LPG - is that possible on the supercharged RR Sport or only on the standard petrol engine? What is HSE and HST?

Are they really ok off road (light usage)? Which body kit to avoid for off road? Which wheels to avoid - 22's seem a bit extreme..?

Thanks
Cuda

camel_landy

5,414 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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If you're considering running costs & LPG... I'd go diesel. These engines can be a right royal PITA to get running reliably on LPG. (Personally, I think it's a false economy anyway!)

TDV8 diesel is perfect. TDV6 is nice but the TDV8 is something else altogether! smile

HSE has all the toys.
HST has a crappy body kit!

Off road... Brilliant. The only thing you need to watch out for are the trim pannels at the bottom of the doors. They will take a battering but after a while they pop off their mountings. Mind you, as long as you don't run them over, you can usually pop them back on. wink

Avoid the HST if using off-road!

If you're going for a TDV8 or Supercharged, you'll probably have the 20" rims (they have the larger Brembo brakes). I wouldn't bother going any bigger than that but you might want to consider getting a set of 19" rims if you want to 'play'... wink

M


cuda

Original Poster:

468 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Thank vm - interesting points - i have lpg in my Grand Cherokee and there's no false economy when it exempts me from the congestion charge in London! Even on fuel alone its great filling up for £30...

Anyhow - what is the standard RR Sport petrol engine - is it a 4.4 or smaller?

Cheers

CycleSi

510 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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The RRS engine options (depending on year) are:

5.0 Supercharged V8 petrol.
4.2 Supercharged V8 petrol.
4.4 V8 petrol.

3.6 TDV8 diesel.
2.7 V6 diesel.

cuda

Original Poster:

468 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Thanks so how does the 4.4l compare to the 4.2l in terms of performance, economy and most importantly, noise?!

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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4.4 is normally aspirated, 300 BHP, 4.2 is Supercharged, 400 BHP, fuel economy is similar unless you drive the S/C a hooligan. Both engines are Jaguar units adapted for LR. Neither is noisy.

Pony up and get the 2010 onwards 5.0 S/C with 510 BHP. It'll blow your socks off.


cuda

Original Poster:

468 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Ha - thanks for that - got a CSL to blow my socks off - need a waftamatic with a bit of poke when needed!

benjj

6,787 posts

187 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Re: off road ability of the RRS, see pics below.

I have a FFRR and it did everything, and I mean everything that the FFRR can do providing, as is mentioned above, you watch the clearance. This is easily done by keeping it in offroad setting when actually offroad - quite easy to remember!






cuda

Original Poster:

468 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Thanks Benjj - good pics - note you don't have those silly (and ugly) side steps on too!

CycleSi

510 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I think you'll find most people will say don't bother with the 4.4.

If you're going for a petrol you might as well have the 4.2 S/C - it's quicker and sounds better with very little difference in the mpg.

eddiebhoy

206 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I've got the TDV8 so I'm biased. It'll waft around all day long and can be a hooligan machine when you want it to be!! Sounds good too. If I wasn't doing the mileage I'm doing, I'd probably get the supercharged as you will save a fortune when buying it compared to the equivalent diesel and the difference in mpg is only about 8 miles.

farmeryellow

378 posts

265 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Make sure you use it off road!

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NOT TO FAST!

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THE FREELANDER JUST AS GOOD AS WELL

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OR GET THE DEFENDER OUT


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Edited by farmeryellow on Saturday 3rd December 21:48


Edited by farmeryellow on Saturday 3rd December 21:59

kVA

2,460 posts

229 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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farmeryellow said:
Make sure you use it off road!

Hmmm... Think you got away lightly there - lucky not to hydraulic the engine driving it at that speed through deep water!

To the OP - if you seriously want 'waftomatic', why not a FFRR rather than the Sport? I would choose a 4.2 Supercharged FFRR if I also had a CSL / 911 or similar to play with

I DID have a 4.2 S/C Sport for a while: I was hard pushed to decide between the two, but chose the Sport for it's handling alone, as it was to be my main car (after 8 years in 911's) - would definitely have had the FFRR if I could have kept the Porsche as well.

farmeryellow

378 posts

265 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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kVA said:
Hmmm... Think you got away lightly there - lucky not to hydraulic the engine driving it at that speed through deep water!

To the OP - if you seriously want 'waftomatic', why not a FFRR rather than the Sport? I would choose a 4.2 Supercharged FFRR if I also had a CSL / 911 or similar to play with

I DID have a 4.2 S/C Sport for a while: I was hard pushed to decide between the two, but chose the Sport for it's handling alone, as it was to be my main car (after 8 years in 911's) - would definitely have had the FFRR if I could have kept the Porsche as well.
Not to worry mr KVA,
This was just another day at the office...its a tough job wink

camel_landy

5,414 posts

207 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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kVA said:
farmeryellow said:
Make sure you use it off road!

Hmmm... Think you got away lightly there - lucky not to hydraulic the engine driving it at that speed through deep water!
Naaaa... No where near!

Reservoir Road I believe (Peacock Villa end). wink

M

Mr XXXX

155 posts

176 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Sign up to rrsport.co.uk and you'll find plenty of knowledgable people and some useful guides to help you out as well as the members on here.


farmeryellow

378 posts

265 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Reservoir Road I believe (Peacock Villa end). wink

Spot on! biggrin

kVA

2,460 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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camel_landy said:
Naaaa... No where near!

Reservoir Road I believe (Peacock Villa end). wink

M
Not exactly staying behind the bow wave though, were we? wink

That's not recent is it? Doubt there's that much water up there at the moment...

Back on topic: Range Rover (as opposed to Sport) actually seems to have slightly better extreme off-road performance: It should be the other way around (because of the disengagement of the active anti-roll bars on Sport), but whenever I've done convoy drives at Eastnor (which is quite a few times, it has to be said), it is always the Sport that runs out of grip first - never yet seen a FFRR stuck when others keep going - including Defender (on road tyres).

camel_landy

5,414 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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kVA said:
camel_landy said:
Naaaa... No where near!

Reservoir Road I believe (Peacock Villa end). wink

M
Not exactly staying behind the bow wave though, were we? wink

That's not recent is it? Doubt there's that much water up there at the moment...


Back on topic: Range Rover (as opposed to Sport) actually seems to have slightly better extreme off-road performance: It should be the other way around (because of the disengagement of the active anti-roll bars on Sport), but whenever I've done convoy drives at Eastnor (which is quite a few times, it has to be said), it is always the Sport that runs out of grip first - never yet seen a FFRR stuck when others keep going - including Defender (on road tyres).
With the recent rain, it has been filling up nicely around there. wink It also stays fairly wet all year, due to the springs in the area.

FFRR vs RRS in extreme off-road... 6 vs 2x3. I find they're about the same but each one does have its unique limitations!! In the deep ruts, the RRS catches the door trim but you have to watch the FFRR in the tight gaps and its rear overhang.

M